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    Healthcare "Reform:" Backdoor for A Civilian Army

    Just in case you hadn't seen the text buried in this bill but how does a privately created Ready Reserve Corps relate to healthcare insurance reform?

    (a verbal explanation and commentary if you don't feel like reading)

    Text of the bill for reference:

    See the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act, page 1312: SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS. Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows: SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE CORPS. (a) ESTABLISHMENT (1) IN GENERAL.here shall be in the Service a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency. (2) REQUIREMENT.All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws and compensated without regard to the Classification Act 2 of 1923, as amended. (3) APPOINTMENT.Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President and commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate. (4) ACTIVE DUTY.Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including active duty for the purpose of training. (5) WARRANT OFFICERS.Warrant officers may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of providing support to the health and delivery systems maintained by the Service and any warrant officer appointed to the Service shall be considered for purposes of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to be a commissioned officer within the Commissioned Corps of the Service. (b) ASSIMILATING RESERVE CORP OFFICERS INTO THE REGULAR CORPS.—Effective on the date of enactment of the Affordable Health Choices Act, all individuals classified as officers in the Reserve Corps under this section (as such section existed on the day before the date of enactment of such Act) and serving on active duty shall be deemed to be commissioned officers of the Regular Corps. [Note here that those personally appointed by BO -- without advice and consent of the Senate -- automatically become a part of the Regular Corps. Ed.] (c) PURPOSE AND USE OF READY RESERVE. (1) PURPOSE.The purpose of the Ready Reserve Corps is to fulfill the need to have additional Commissioned Corps personnel available on short notice (similar to the uniformed services reserve program) to assist regular Commissioned Corps personnel to meet both routine public health and emergency response missions. (2) USES.The Ready Reserve Corps shall (A) participate in routine training to meet the general and specific needs of the Commissioned Corps; (B) be available and ready for involuntary calls to active duty during national emergencies and public health crises, similar to the uniformed service reserve personnel; (C) be available for backfilling critical positions left vacant during deployment of active duty Commissioned Corps members, as well as for deployment to respond to public health emergencies, both foreign and domestic; and (D) be available for service assignment in isolated, hardship, and medically underserved communities (as defined in section 399SS) to improve access to health services. (d) FUNDING.—For the purpose of carrying out the duties and responsibilities of the Commissioned Corps under this section, there are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary to the Office of the Surgeon General for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014. Funds appropriated under this subsection shall be used for recruitment and training of Commissioned Corps Officers.

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    Re: Healthcare "Reform:" Backdoor for A Civilian Army

    why did you put reform in quotes? do you disagree that the Healthcare Reform bill reforms healthcare? or did you just want to come on here and regurgitate your bullshit foxnews talking points?
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    Those talking points are common sense (and are attributed beyond your crybaby Foxnews wahh wahh accusations). "Reform" doesn't make healthcare worse for most who now have it. Congrats on ONCE AGAIN ignoring what's in the bill. The above is lifted right from it.

    You liberal nanny staters will down cyanide if your heroes say it's good for you.

    Are you going to try to address the question as to how the Ready Reserve Corps has anything to do with the betterment of healthcare in this country? Or are you going to continually bitch about Fox News, my use of quotes and all the "bullshit talking points?"
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    Re: Healthcare "Reform:" Backdoor for A Civilian Army

    Quote Originally Posted by name change request View Post
    or did you just want to come on here and regurgitate your bullshit foxnews talking points?
    what an ironic comment
    Read: ObtuseObserver dammit

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    NCR also probably agrees with this statist douche (D-Stark):



    "The Federal Government can do most anything in this country."

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    Re: Healthcare "Reform:" Backdoor for A Civilian Army

    section 5210 that you listed is part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act... which is different than the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act and it doesn't CREATE a Ready Reserve Corps... it revises it, as in it already exists. and it's part of the Public Health Service which explains how it relates to health care.

    there are plenty of books out there on the subject if you want to educate yourself on what it is but it sure as hell isn't a civilian army that is going to come after you lol or whatever other paranoid fantasy you heard about on foxnews
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    It exists where exactly? The Nat'l Guard and Militia are already in existence to aid in national emergencies. Why does the usurper need a privately selected brigade to fulfill this role? How does adding yet another COST make care more affordable?

    You can pretend to believe this is all innocuous and for "our own good" but you are just lapping up the Kool-Aid. Fox News is in bed with the rest of the media (you're just too partisan-fooled to see it). They simply play the right. You also have to move beyond your "progressive" media outlets before you'll ever see the truth.

    This is nothing to do with Fox News: http://www.commieblaster.com/
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    hey, if you think Obama invented the RRC and is going to deploy it to your house to force you to take your medicine then go for it!

    it's not my job to fucking educate you, i'm just going to sit back and laugh at your idiotic ramblings. the information is freely available from reputable sources on what the RRC is and why it's in the bill, if you are too lazy to go read it and instead want to take your information from "commie blaster" then go ahead.

    usurper... LOL. you're a loon!
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    Re: Healthcare "Reform:" Backdoor for A Civilian Army

    Quote Originally Posted by name change request View Post
    section 5210 that you listed is part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act... which is different than the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act and it doesn't CREATE a Ready Reserve Corps... it revises it, as in it already exists. and it's part of the Public Health Service which explains how it relates to health care.

    there are plenty of books out there on the subject if you want to educate yourself on what it is but it sure as hell isn't a civilian army that is going to come after you lol or whatever other paranoid fantasy you heard about on foxnews
    I think you're referring to IRR... inactive ready reserve and yes, it's been around a long long time
    Read: ObtuseObserver dammit

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    NCR, I'm sure there is some brilliant lawyer-drafted reasoning as to why this inactive reserve needs to be called upon to be ready in the event of a nat'l emergency in the Patient Protection and Affordability Care Act. You would defend anything from this govt. as long as it came packed with obfuscation and good intentions. And usurper is exactly what he is, spending millions in tax monies to keep his history under lock and key.

    Commieblaster is dead on...pointing out Communist influences and takeovers in our own Govt. Who said it would start with violence? A fluoride-addled, docile, comfort-addicted populace is all they need.

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    Re: Healthcare "Reform:" Backdoor for A Civilian Army

    the fact is that you made a post regurgitating some bullshit from a website that wasn't based upon fact

    Obama didn't create anything. He didn't even write this bill, Congress did. The section you referred to is not new, it exists already... this just revises it. You, much like other nutjobs, make up stories to try to drum up anti-Obama sentiment which allows all level-headed intelligent people to point out the fact that you're making up stories to drum up anti-Obama sentiment. We get it, you're a fucking loon who thinks Obama is destroying this country... no need to make up anymore bullshit stories.
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    Re: Healthcare "Reform:" Backdoor for A Civilian Army

    You are spouting the bullshit in your neverending defense of this anti-American "executive" and the broad expansions of Federal power his whole administration represents (with openness and transparency being little more than buzzwords for his campaign of deception). How is the above not fact? It's right in the text of the bill and Congress didn't write it (with countless members claiming before its passage that they didn't know its contents, hadn't fully read it and that they should pass it anyway and fix it later aka head congresswoman Piglosi). Lawyers in that socialist outfit, the Apollo Alliance, wrote most of it. Keep dribbling your rabid statist govt. propaganda.

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    the fact that you consider the healthcare bill a "broad expansion of Federal power" just proves how little you know about it. now if the Public Option had been a part of the bill then maybe i'd buy that... but it wasn't

    not to mention the fact that you stated here that Congress didn't write it... lol.
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    If they crafted so much of it, they sure didn't act like it with all of the paraphrased public statements that you typically don't remember hearing. Harry Reid himself said the Apollo Alliance wrote (a good portion, if not most of) the bill.

    There doesn't need to be a public option for proof of expansion of Govt. control. The mandate alone is enough proof of that.

    The good news is Missouri told the Feds to f*ck off yesterday in the primary. May the resistance continue.

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    i'm confident that the majority of people that are against the healthcare bill don't understand a damn thing about it other than the lies they've been told by right wing media

    get worked up over it because it's obvious that your mind will never be changed on the matter but maybe one day when you grow up and remove your head from your ass you'll begin to see things a bit clearer. it'd be one thing if you fucking understood the facts about the bill and disagree with it on some reasonable principle but you're just a fucking loon believing and spreading lies and bullshit about it.
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