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Old 06-07-09, 02:56 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Just got a rather interesting email from a source I can't mention

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Originally Posted by St. Stalin the Apathetic View Post
Didn't watch the video and don't care to, however, the general notion that Muslim populations are increasing at a greater rate in many european countries than Christians is a simple matter of fact - and not a very controversial one.
It is actually false. The Muslim population in Europe is not increasing at a rapid rate. I'll explain later.

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When the ratios flip/flop I don't know but when the Archbishop of Canterbury speaks in favor of the UK recognizing sharia for Muslim brits do you think it a strecth that should/when Muslims outnumber other brits that they'd want it to apply to all brits?
Even though I'm against what the Archbishop stated, you are distorting his claims. What was going on is that he had no problem with Muslims using sharia courts to arbitrate civil cases.

Jews already have their own Beth Din courts to arbitrate disputes for their communities, yet where is the outcry over that?

If you're against Sharia courts in the UK, then you better on the same token oppose Beth Din courts as well. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. No religious courts in the UK, period.

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Read an interesting comment from a demographer the other day.. in the UK the largest (and I'm trying to recall his wording - I'll try to look it up and clarify later) cohort of Christians are brits over 70 and the largest cohort (he used that word - cohort - not sure wtf it means) of Muslims are in the under 4 catagory. He based his comments on statistics from some Brit gov't agncy.
I would like to see the link to that finding you quote.

Here's a scholarly take that contradicts the demographer's claims:

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The reality, however, looks rather different from such dire scenarios. Upon closer inspection, it turns out that while Muhammad topped Thomas in 2006, it was something of a Pyrrhic victory: Fewer than two percent of Britain’s male babies bore the prophet’s name. One fact that gets lost among distractions such as the Times story is that the birthrates of Muslim women in Europe—and around the world—have been falling significantly for some time. Data on birthrates among different religious groups in Europe are scarce, but they point in a clear direction. Between 1990 and 2005, for example, the fertility rate in the Netherlands for Moroccan-born women fell from 4.9 to 2.9, and for *Turkish-*born women from 3.2 to 1.9. In 1970, *Turkish-*born women in Germany had on average two children more than *German-*born women. By 1996, the difference had fallen to one child, and it has now dropped to half that number.
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The decline of Muslim birthrates is a global phenomenon. Most analysts have focused on the remarkably high proportion of people under age 25 in the Arab countries, which has inspired some crude forecasts about what this implies for the future. Yet recent UN data suggest that Arab birthrates are falling fast, and that the number of births among women under the age of 20 is dropping even more sharply. Only two Arab countries still have high fertility rates: Yemen and the Palestinian *territories.

In some Muslim *countries—*Tunisia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Lebanon—fertility rates have already fallen to *near-*European levels. Algeria and Morocco, each with a fertility rate of 2.4, are both dropping fast toward such levels. Turkey is experiencing a similar trend.
So explain to me how the Muslim population is increasing at a "greater" (your words, not mine) rate than the native population?

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He said it was inevitable amongst other odd things
Using a source that is mockingly called the "Daily Torygraph" doesn't help to further your claims.
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