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Originally Posted by joel  i can't believe i'm going to stick up for Fees because he's such a dick but i think you are missing his point. i don't think he is saying that Iran has as much freedom as the U.S.
what i'm seeing him say, in a completely UN-lawlerlike way, is that the U.S. has govt corruption and Iran has govt corruption. the degree to which they are corrupt are too similar for a country as great as ours. they may not be equal but he was just drawing a correlation between the two. because our country is free though the corruption gets masked a lot more than it does in Iran. |
I think your being awfully generous in your reading of his comments.
The corruption in Iran is comparable to the US only if you wish to show the great disparity between the two. It isn't a zero sum game where once corruption is identified the threshold has been met and all states are equally bad. Degrees exist and if you're accruately describing his comments he's seeing black and white... or corrupt / not corrupt... and that's just silly.
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Originally Posted by zerojunkie Um, no. We're up there, but by no means the leader in every category. |
which one's are we not the leader in?
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Originally Posted by zerojunkie I generally support the real reasons for invading Iraq, but any success that first year in Iraq was in spite of the Bush administration's policies not because of them. They had virtually no plan for governing the populace after Saddam was deposed. |
You're right as far as what you said goes but he was talking about how quickly we dispatched Saddam's army while you're talking about how we fucked up the early success with horseshit planning for "what next."