The death of Sheik Ahmed Yassin

[Hey Bubu]

What do you think are going to be the effects of his killing, on Israel and the world at large.


He has become a martyr now, great ammo for the religeous zealots type.


It's going to get even more bloody.

Hamas already has people that play the role of suicide bomber.

It is unlikely that the hatred Hamas feels toward Israel is going to be much greater.

Hamas may become more active - and Israel will then as well.

[Hey Bubu]

Originally posted by xiannaix
Hamas already has people that play the role of suicide bomber.

It is unlikely that the hatred Hamas feels toward Israel is going to be much greater.

Hamas may become more active - and Israel will then as well.

Israel has become more public in its retaliation of attacks, this move plays againts the proposed talks in Cairo for a peace treaty.
Extremist will more than likely blame part of this attack on the US saying that we supported Israel; there have already been demonstrations to that effect. The US was quick to point out that we had no prior knowledge of this. Peace talks have been thrown out the window that's for sure. They want Israels PM's head...

[Ryan]

There will be a temporary rise in violence against Israeli civilians. One thing is absolutely certain - this death will result in more suffering for both the Israelis and Palestinians. I think it's ridiculous given the history of this conflict that intelligent people could view this as a victory. If the point of the aggression is revenge, then I guess this is a point in favor of Israel. If the point is to make strides toward peace and reduce violence against innocent people, then both sides lose a point here.

Let the boodshed commence...

[psyon]

your brother killed my brother....now I kill you



"there's no vestige of a beginning, no prospect of an end"

[Hey Bubu]

After many attacks on the jewish people, Israel decides to openly attack Palestine. Palestine wants "their land" back.

Can anyone think of a solution that would keep both sides happy???

[Ryan]

Originally posted by TypeH
Can anyone think of a solution that would keep both sides happy???

No. They hate one another for religious, ethnic, and cultural reasons that go way beyond Palestinian suicide bombings and Israeli rocket attacks. Neither side will even really compromise because they both feel they have God on their side. At this point, I wish only to not have my tax money contribute to their bloodshed. The rest is out of our hands.

[Hey Bubu]

Originally posted by Ryan
At this point, I wish only to not have my tax money contribute to their bloodshed. The rest is out of our hands.

At the risk of sounding overtly plurry and idealistic, wouldn't you say that it would be in the interest of the entire world to at least try and come up with plaussible solutions. I think that we are finally on the road to becoming one "united world, united race" and as such we all have a responsibility in helping shape what happens to our world.

Goes back to pragmatic approach.

*let them kill themselves, we'll wipe out the survivors

[Ryan]

Originally posted by TypeH
At the risk of sounding overtly plurry and idealistic, wouldn't you say that it would be in the interest of the entire world to at least try and come up with plaussible solutions. I think that we are finally on the road to becoming one "united world, united race" and as such we all have a responsibility in helping shape what happens to our world.

First off, people have been trying for decades to find a solution. We've thrown money at the problem, sent our leaders to talk to theirs, and conjured up numerous creative compromises. All of it has failed and will continue to fail. While the US has always and will always side with Israel, much of the world sees our position as unfair and sides with the Palestinians. When someone dares suggest that both sides are wrong in their murderous ways, they are attacked as either being "anti-Semitic" or "anti-Islam," depending on the slanted political view of the country in which the suggestion is made. Both sides are fighting a religious battle and it is impossibe to compromise with religious zealots.

With regard to the world being more "united," I would say that we are less united than in any other time in recent history. We are involved in wars that an overwhelming majority of the planet views as illegal and self-serving. The Western world is despised by Islamists. Muslims are despised by many Westerners. Hindus and Muslims are killing one another in India. Muslims and Orthodox Christians are killing one another in Kosovo. I could go on all day. We might like to believe we are evolving as a human race, but the reality of the world says otherwise.

[Hey Bubu]

Originally posted by Ryan
We might like to believe we are evolving as a human race, but the reality of the world says otherwise.

For some reason the movie Equilibrium comes to mind.


Anyways, I guess we let them kill themselves and we'll take care of the survivors, right?

[Adam D]

I think this is going to incite more violence. I don't see any other outcome happening.

I also think that inevitably, the best thing for the US, and the international community to do is to stop financing both sides and condemn the violence on both sides. They are going to fight it out, and the only way it will end is when the populations of both sides demand their leadership to stop the violence and to resolve the issue.

The only other legitimate answer I see possible, and I don't advocate it, is to send in UN peacekeepers to keep the two sides apart indefidently until the two sides agree on a resolution.

Unfortunately, neither of those solutions are going to happen.

[Hey Bubu]

Originally posted by Adam D


The only other legitimate answer I see possible, and I don't advocate it, is to send in UN peacekeepers to keep the two sides apart indefidently until the two sides agree on a resolution.

This of course would be only a temporary solution.


For the people to ask their leaders to end this war it would take the education of many, and I highly doubt that the religeous leaders of either side would be willing to give up their power.



And people bitch and complain about the Roman Catholic church

[Adam D]

Originally posted by TypeH
This of course would be only a temporary solution.


For the people to ask their leaders to end this war it would take the education of many, and I highly doubt that the religeous leaders of either side would be willing to give up their power.



And people bitch and complain about the Roman Catholic church

I think eventually the Israeli people will get tired of suicide bombings, and will elect somebody who will be willing to make a fair deal with the Palestinians. At that point, I think it will be hard for the PA or the Palestinian terror groups to justify not making amends, aside from the shove-israel-into-the-sea extremists. Unfortunately I think that won't happen until many more Sharons come to power.

[Hey Bubu]

Originally posted by Adam D
I think eventually the Israeli people will get tired of suicide bombings, and will elect somebody who will be willing to make a fair deal with the Palestinians. At that point, I think it will be hard for the PA or the Palestinian terror groups to justify not making amends, aside from the shove-israel-into-the-sea extremists. Unfortunately I think that won't happen until many more Sharons come to power.

Agreed, some one on either side has to say enough, but stop looking for retaliation and vengance. Given their long warring history, I don't know if that will happen.

Oh well, we'll be so concerned with the middle east that we won't see the quiet Chinese invasion coming full force..

*goes back to learning Cantonese and Mandarin

[USAcommitteeX]

I kept hearing they might do it but I really didn't think they would...if anyone I was thinking the Hezbollah leader in Lebanon....but the threats coming from Hamas now..is nothing new, they have been saying that everyday since 1988... and the threats about destroying the Zionist state is also not new they have been saying that everyday since 1948. Yassin lives or dies the only goal of Hamas is the same, plus Israel has promised to kill more terrorist leaders its their right todo so since..the PA....

Can anyone think of a solution that would keep both sides happy???

Who does the land belong to..the Jews who came first? or the Arabs who came second?