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Old 03-24-04, 01:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Why Won't Condoleeza Rice Testify?

Does anyone have any thougts on this? Can anyone think of a possible good reason that she would refuse to tell the Senate panel what happened after 9/11? She says there is a "conflict of interest," which makes absolutely no sense at all. The Dems are going to bury Bush on this if she doesn't spill it.
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Old 03-24-04, 01:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Does anyone have any thougts on this? Can anyone think of a possible good reason that she would refuse to tell the Senate panel what happened after 9/11? She says there is a "conflict of interest," which makes absolutely no sense at all. The Dems are going to bury Bush on this if she doesn't spill it.


I think she's making a point that she won't be at the beck and call of Congress.

She's speaking plenty in interviews with the press.
 
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I think she's making a point that she won't be at the beck and call of Congress.

She's speaking plenty in interviews with the press.
I think that's ludicrous. Everyone else has agreed to testify and if she cares anything about her boss's reelection bid, she'd better change her mind. The public is not going see her position, but they will wonder what she is hiding. She is the National Security Advisor, and as such, she absolutely should be expected to tell Congress what she knows when there is a federal panel investigating this tragedy.
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She's speaking plenty in interviews with the press.
yeah....what a bunch of bs....interviews are controlled...she can call the shots (or control them anyway)

interviews are not open inquiries...this is why she has no problem speaking out in the press


yes...the conflict on interest would be burning herself and Bush...guess thats understandable
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I think that's ludicrous. Everyone else has agreed to testify and if she cares anything about her boss's reelection bid, she'd better change her mind. The public is not going see her position, but they will wonder what she is hiding. She is the National Security Advisor, and as such, she absolutely should be expected to tell Congress what she knows when there is a federal panel investigating this tragedy.

no shit...she is the so called "National Security Advisor"....and our national security went out the window on 9/11...and we want answers



why don't they just say it....ok I'll say it....we let 9/11 happen so we would have an excuse to go to Iraq and start this never-ending war against terrorism

well I don't believe that....but it does make sense in that problem-solution-reaction sort of way
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no shit...she is the so called "National Security Advisor"....and our national security went out the window on 9/11...and we want answers



why don't they just say it....ok I'll say it....we let 9/11 happen so we would have an excuse to go to Iraq and start this never-ending war against terrorism

well I don't believe that....but it does make sense in that problem-solution-reaction sort of way
It makes sense only to paraniod people.
 
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no shit...she is the so called "National Security Advisor"....and our national security went out the window on 9/11...and we want answers



why don't they just say it....ok I'll say it....we let 9/11 happen so we would have an excuse to go to Iraq and start this never-ending war against terrorism

well I don't believe that....but it does make sense in that problem-solution-reaction sort of way
After hearing almost every word that has been spoken in the hearings, I am 100% convinced that this was not the case. Both Clinton and Bush were well aware of the risk and were actively pursuing a strategy to combat terrorism. However, before 9/11 happened noone could have understood the depth of the threat we faced.

9/11 was not allowed to happen so we could attack Iraq, but it was absolutely used as an excuse to attack them. More and more information is coming forward showing that Bush thought about Iraq before 9/11 and that he began planning a war with them days, if not hours, after the 9/11 attacks. This is fact, not paranoia, and I think it plays an enormous role in Dr. Rice's decision to remain silent.
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The CIA testimonies have been interesting today...


tune into NPR to hear it...

CIA was put into a position not to seek covert action thanks to the media and the congress converying to them that convert actions are too risky and should not be condoned...

Al Qaeda was pretty much unheard of until rumors about it started circulating in 93 and finally attention was brought to its existence in 95...

3 administrations did nothing about it... chose not to investigate the terrorist group... the embassy bombings, the attack on the uss cole...

It's as if nobody seemed to give a shit.... regardless of political affiliation...

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3 administrations did nothing about it... chose not to investigate the terrorist group... the embassy bombings, the attack on the uss cole...

It's as if nobody seemed to give a shit.... regardless of political affiliation...

Probably due to the thinking that no one ever figured that we would be attacked in our own soil. It was a hell of a wake up call to say the least.
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3 administrations did nothing about it... chose not to investigate the terrorist group... the embassy bombings, the attack on the uss cole...

It's as if nobody seemed to give a shit.... regardless of political affiliation...
I didn't get that at all. These events were investigated and there was a lot of information kept about the terrorists. They may not have acted decisively enough, but they were not sitting around doing nothing. And only an event like September 11 would have warranted a major war in the eyes of the public and the government. Sometimes the best lessons are the hardest to learn.
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I didn't get that at all. These events were investigated and there was a lot of information kept about the terrorists. They may not have acted decisively enough, but they were not sitting around doing nothing. And only an event like September 11 would have warranted a major war in the eyes of the public and the government. Sometimes the best lessons are the hardest to learn.
Chances are if some sort of threat was possed by a few, it would have been overlooked and dismissed. The whole, it would never happen here, mentality.
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I'll need to find a transcript, but there was a very ambiguous question a senator asked tenet this morning about the CIA's role under these new circumstances... I took me a second to figure out what he was trying to get at...

and Tenet said something to the extend of.. I don't understand what you are trying to ask, can you please clarify... so the senator asked something to the extent of... in light of recent problems with intelligence should the cia be allowed to extend its operations both foreign and domestically?

Tenet replied: Absolutely Not!


But you should have heard the first question asked... you almost wanted to answer yes, until you really thought about the question... talk about setting people up...

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I don't think it matters why she won't testify. Bad hair day, sore throat, feels she doesn't have to, told not to, whatever. What's important is the implications of it.

The Bush administration has stalled and tried to kill the 9/11 inquiry all along, and quite blatantly feels the public, if not Congress, does not deserve to know the truth behind what happened and how it was allowed to happen. I understand there are times for some matters to be kept confidential. 9/11 is not one of those.
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After hearing almost every word that has been spoken in the hearings, I am 100% convinced that this was not the case. Both Clinton and Bush were well aware of the risk and were actively pursuing a strategy to combat terrorism. However, before 9/11 happened noone could have understood the depth of the threat we faced.

9/11 was not allowed to happen so we could attack Iraq, but it was absolutely used as an excuse to attack them. More and more information is coming forward showing that Bush thought about Iraq before 9/11 and that he began planning a war with them days, if not hours, after the 9/11 attacks. This is fact, not paranoia, and I think it plays an enormous role in Dr. Rice's decision to remain silent.

well I'm not 100% sure of anything...but I agree
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It makes sense only to paraniod people.
Paranoia is good for the heart.

It keeps it beating.
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