Cheating Death, Prison, And Life

[Adam D]

good luck with all of that.

[sepania]

Originally posted by trance*babe
Everyone on earth will worship something, weather it will be a boyfriend/girlfriend, a car, money, your job, sex, your tv shows, music, drugs, etc... b/c man/woman was made to worship something....the only thing that will fully satisfy your soul in worship is the exact power (God) that created you. Only that will complete you.

I'll have to disagree with this. It is one of the lies that Christians feed people, and those with weak minds and young souls believe it because they can relate to it. They don't refer to them as "sheep" for no reason.

That's all I'll say about that.

Good luck with your newfound faith, but don't be too suprised when the Jesus high wears off and you're right back where you began.

[Adam D]

Originally posted by trance*babe
Everyone on earth will worship something, weather it will be a boyfriend/girlfriend, a car, money, your job, sex, your tv shows, music, drugs, etc... b/c man/woman was made to worship something....the only thing that will fully satisfy your soul in worship is the exact power (God) that created you. Only that will complete you.

If we are made in His (God's) image, and we are made to worship, then God must be made to worship.


What/Who does God worship?

[El Cártel Malo]

Very Powerful. I don't know you all that well, but I am proud of what your doing.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by Sasha_137
I'll have to disagree with this. It is one of the lies that Christians feed people, and those with weak minds and young souls believe it because they can relate to it. They don't refer to them as "sheep" for no reason.

That's all I'll say about that.

Good luck with your newfound faith, but don't be too suprised when the Jesus high wears off and you're right back where you began.

Yup. So many Christians seem to think that the reason non-Christians are non-Christians is because we have not been exposed to the "true power of Jesus" and that we're "living in sin" because we are lost in the world. When you tell them that you have spent your entire life raised as a Christian, studied the religion thoroughly, thought about it carefully and logically, and then decided to consciously reject it, they seem to think that you've been overtaken by the "grips of the devil." I am a firm believer that one can live a highly fulfilled life and be a genuinely good person without the crutch of religion to prop you up. Sure, it can help when you're in a bad spot, but when things calm down, it's generally difficult to overcome the numerous fallacies and contradictions inherent in monotheism.

[sepania]

Originally posted by Ryan
Yup. So many Christians seem to think that the reason non-Christians are non-Christians is because we have not been exposed to the "true power of Jesus" and that we're "living in sin" because we are lost in the world. When you tell them that you have spent your entire life raised as a Christian, studied the religion thoroughly, thought about it carefully and logically, and then decided to consciously reject it, they seem to think that you've been overtaken by the "grips of the devil." I am a firm believer that one can live a highly fulfilled life and be a genuinely good person without the crutch of religion to prop you up. Sure, it can help when you're in a bad spot, but when things calm down, it's generally difficult to overcome the numerous fallacies and contradictions inherent in monotheism.

Well said.

I too grew up as a Christian. It was not forced on me at all. I simply came to the realization one day when talking to one of my friends, that it was ridiculous that she was "going to hell" because she was not baptized and didn't attend church.
Not to mention the constant fear I had that I was "living in sin." I thouroghly believed I was saved, but I always had that inkling of doubt hanging over my shoulders.
There are so many contradictions in the bible, and in all religions for that matter. Do your research before claiming that your way is the right way.

Oh wait...that's Satan telling me to do that. LOL

[Sweet Imperfection]

Originally posted by Sasha_137
I'll have to disagree with this. It is one of the lies that Christians feed people, and those with weak minds and young souls believe it because they can relate to it. They don't refer to them as "sheep" for no reason.

That's all I'll say about that.

Good luck with your newfound faith, but don't be too suprised when the Jesus high wears off and you're right back where you began.

I dont know where you get your information from, BUT i must let you know that i have grown up in a home and watched my whole life my parents, and my sister go thur life and never seemed to lose the "Jesus high".

I'll more than boast that i have a weak mind if thats what it takes for me to submit to God. My life is not about "doing it on my own", or how STRONG and SOLID I am on my own. Yes, i admit i am a weak being, I used to think i could do everything on my own and I could be my own god. My life is about knowing my God has a better plan for me than I do and letting him lead me. When i finally submitted my will and life to Christ, only THEN have i become fully alive.

I dont expect you or anyone else on the board understand that, and i respect your differing beliefs.

I too grew up in a christian home, but then decided the "christian life" just wasnt for me, so i pretty much turned my back on God to persue what "Gretchen wanted" and screw anything and anyone that got in my way. I never really understood all the "Jesus Freaks" out there, and acutally made fun of them. So i completely relate to and understand where you are coming from.

My thinking has changed tho....I dont want to push that down anyones throats, BUT i seriously LOVE all of you on the board. We all share a common passion...the love of eletronic music, so i will alwasy feel connected to everyone here....and for me not to share my #1 passion in my life now(Life in Christ) would be selfish of me.

If you dont accept it, that is fine, i respect that, but the reason i want to share it is because my life is SO much better now that i have stopped living for my own selfish desires, and now live for honoring God, and loving and helping people with my life and with what i have learned.

Just because you dont believe it doesnt mean you have to knock it.

To each his own

[Sweet Imperfection]

Originally posted by Ryan
I don't worship anything, and I feel quite complete. Maybe some people were "made to worship something," but others are capable of finding fulfillment in other facets of life. I'm glad that JC has rescued so many from the pits of drugs, crime, and prison, but not everyone needs a steady diet of monotheism to keep them out of trouble. Anyway, whatever gets you through the day...

[Keith P]

what are you shaking your head about?
he puts it upon himself to live a good life.
like he said...not everyone needs religious devotion to a live a decent life

[Trey Brister]

Originally posted by Adam D
If we are made in His (God's) image, and we are made to worship, then God must be made to worship.


What/Who does God worship?

FALLACY ALERT: God is there TO BE worshipped.

[Trey Brister]

Originally posted by Adam D
If we are made in His (God's) image, and we are made to worship, then God must be made to worship.


What/Who does God worship?

FALLACY ALERT: God is there TO BE worshipped.

[sepania]

Originally posted by trance*babe
Just because you dont believe it doesnt mean you have to knock it.

To each his own

Ironic that right after you posted this you shook your head at Ryan's "differing beliefs".



Sheep!

[sepania]

Originally posted by Sasha_137
There are so many contradictions in the bible, and in all religions for that matter. Do your research before claiming that your way is the right way.

Oh wait...that's Satan telling me to do that. LOL

[Keith P]

Ironic that right after you posted this you shook your head at Ryan's "differing beliefs".

[Sweet Imperfection]

Originally posted by Keith P
what are you shaking your head about?
he puts it upon himself to live a good life.
like he said...not everyone needs religious devotion to a live a decent life

the only reason i shake my head is that he seems to think that i'm selling myself short by deciding to live for Christ. There have been many times i wasnt doing drugs or anything and was living a "good" life, but even then i was selling myself short, man...i cant explain it and again i dont expect everyone to understand it, but the change from just doing fine & living a decent and "good" life on my own, to giving my life away and making God the center of everything i do is such a HUGE difference, from merely "existing" to actually living. Words alone cannot explain it

Like i said....to each his own, i'm not dissing him for what he believes in, i'm shaking my head that he seemed to make light of my decision. And yes, i agree he does have a right to his own opinion. dont make light of mine. That is all.