Fallujah

[Hey Bubu]

The cease fire doesn't seem to be working and it looks more and more that the idea of resolving this issue in a diplomatic matter might be thrown out the window.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3667205.stm


What are your views on this?

[psyon]

well like everyone I hope it can be resolved...I just read that the Iraqi governing is demanding full sovereignty after the Jun 30th transfer day....not a good sign

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3664395.stm


what happens when the council completely turns on us?

[Krash]

Originally posted by psyon
what happens when the council completely turns on us?

That's democracy for you.

Originally posted by Krash
That's democracy for you.

Indeed. It's their damn country.

So do the guys in Fallujah think that they better fight quick or they'll lose their opportunity to fight Americans after June 30?

Anyway - give it back and get the hell out after June 30 - if they want to shoot at us in the meantime - shoot back.

[Adam D]

Originally posted by xiannaix
Indeed. It's their damn country.

Wasn't it their damn country before we invaded?

Originally posted by Adam D
Wasn't it their damn country before we invaded?

Sure was - and what a wonderful place it was too Adam.

We did them a huge favor - now we can do a bigger one and hand their government back to them without a murderous capricious despot running the show.

You really cannot have it both ways Adam - either we did the right thing or we should have left Saddam in power.

[johnny861]

Originally posted by Adam D
Wasn't it their damn country before we invaded?

No, It was Saddam's...

[Led]

The problem with Fallujah is that they were completely funded by Sadaam. Now that the money is gone, they are fighting back. It's the same damn people, the chicken doesn't just die when you cut its head off, it fucks shit up aimlessly before it finally gives way.

[Krash]

Originally posted by xiannaix
Anyway - give it back and get the hell out after June 30 - if they want to shoot at us in the meantime - shoot back.

Absolutely, however as far as I can see, and iirc you've supported this policy, we won't be leaving after June 30th, nor will the Iraqi's have full control of their country. Now, if an elected government asks the US to stay and help them maintain order, it would get my full support - however that won't happen until November of NEXT year and, in the meantime, Iraq will be fucked and, along with it, any goodwill we might of gained in removing Saddam from power.

Iraq really is the epitomy of "Catch-22".

Originally posted by Krash
Absolutely, however as far as I can see, and iirc you've supported this policy, we won't be leaving after June 30th, nor will the Iraqi's have full control of their country. Now, if an elected government asks the US to stay and help them maintain order, it would get my full support - however that won't happen until November of NEXT year and, in the meantime, Iraq will be fucked and, along with it, any goodwill we might of gained in removing Saddam from power.

Iraq really is the epitomy of "Catch-22".

Sure - but we must do what we can to improve the situation. That may be very costly. It is part of the risk we took. I assume the gov't after &/30 is there to make a "real" one. But, it is a VERY substantive step in the right direction.