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Adam D · 04-29-04, 04:11 PM

Currently, people who have been convicted of felonies cannot vote. (My understanding is there is a way to expunge one's record and recoop that right, but I'm not very knowledgeable on that subject)

Should the law be changed to allow them to vote?

Satchel · 04-29-04, 04:33 PM

Most of the time they have to wait 5 years to get their rights back. That seems fair for the average felon.

johnny861 · 04-29-04, 04:36 PM

If they are able to be "rehabilitated" back into society, then I think their rights should be given back as well.

04-29-04, 04:40 PM

Unsure

may depend on the felony

Krash · 04-29-04, 04:43 PM

It sure dun keep all dem blacks from voting, don't it!

KaZ · 04-29-04, 04:47 PM

I cant vote, because of the above reason

I tried to learn about record expultion(?) for a while but got frustrated. I read in a newspaper article a while back that you have to write to the Gov. and ask for a pardon ....and since 1973 in the state of Wisconsin 13 pardons have been granted . That was the end of my search.

should I be able to vote ? I wish I could

04-29-04, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KaZ
I cant vote, because of the above reason

I tried to learn about record expultion(?) for a while but got frustrated. I read in a newspaper article a while back that you have to write to the Gov. and ask for a pardon ....and since 1973 in the state of Wisconsin 13 pardons have been granted . That was the end of my search.

should I be able to vote ? I wish I could

You're in WI?

I grew up there.

Care to share your charge? Feel free to tell me to piss up a rope - I'm just curious. The low number may be because of a relatively low rate of peolpe trying.

KaZ · 04-29-04, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by xiannaix
You're in WI?

I grew up there.

Care to share your charge? Feel free to tell me to piss up a rope - I'm just curious. The low number may be because of a relatively low rate of peolpe trying.

I was in WI , Eau Claire

Delivery of THC ...class U felony ..I was 17 years old and tried as an adult

SenseOfCommons · 04-29-04, 05:07 PM

Honestly, most people who have felonies are probably not any less able to choose properly when voting than other people are.... they just happened to have been arrested for something that classifies them that way. Of course, I would tend to look at the individual and see if there is any "reason" that they shouldn't vote. It's all bullshit to me.. political red tape and garbage.

As per expunging your record... I don't believe it's that hard to do. You just have to spend money on doing it. If it's a lighter offense, you can just have a lawyer submit the paperwork to the DA... but I do believe on felonies, you have to wait 5 years or so.

Adam D · 04-29-04, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xiannaix
Unsure

may depend on the felony

What's the argument in favor of denying the right to vote over a felony?

04-29-04, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KaZ
I was in WI , Eau Claire

Delivery of THC ...class U felony ..I was 17 years old and tried as an adult

I grew up in Mondovi - 15 miles from there.

You may still be able to benefit from the attempt. If it was sufficiently long ago and the amount small enough. Your age is a good mitigating factor. Get your ducks in a row and keep submitting until it works.

04-29-04, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by Adam D
What's the argument in favor of denying the right to vote over a felony?

felonies are generally pertty nasty crimes.

the advent of mothers taking over the legislature with "won't somebody please think of the children" has some what blurred the lines.

Historically though... blah blah blah

04-29-04, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SenseOfCommons
Honestly, most people who have felonies are probably not any less able to choose properly when voting than other people are.... they just happened to have been arrested for something that classifies them that way. Of course, I would tend to look at the individual and see if there is any "reason" that they shouldn't vote. It's all bullshit to me.. political red tape and garbage.

As per expunging your record... I don't believe it's that hard to do. You just have to spend money on doing it. If it's a lighter offense, you can just have a lawyer submit the paperwork to the DA... but I do believe on felonies, you have to wait 5 years or so.

It has nothing to do with being able to make a good choice. It has more to do with disenfranchising those who've not playde by the rules. Punishment of the felon and protecting society from them.

A DA cannot pardon a felony. A DA can re-open a case and get it dismissed - but if the sentence is served it is a moot point.

Satchel · 04-29-04, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Adam D
What's the argument in favor of denying the right to vote over a felony?

Keeping a civil society perhaps

MysteryMeat · 04-29-04, 05:23 PM

Just playing devil's advocate here, I'm not really saying right or wrong on the issue, but let's say that felons were given back the right to vote (as a whole).

Some smart politician is going to realize that there is a new available demographic to campaign to in an attempt to gain the votes of the convicted. What does this mean? Work toward shorter jail terms? More benefits and relief for ex-cons? What do you think a politician would be willing to do to garner more support?

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04-29-04, 04:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Satchel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Plaino Posts: 2,973	Most of the time they have to wait 5 years to get their rights back. That seems fair for the average felon.

04-29-04, 04:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
xiannaix Guest Posts: n/a	Unsure may depend on the felony

04-29-04, 04:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
KaZ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: dallas Posts: 67	I cant vote, because of the above reason I tried to learn about record expultion(?) for a while but got frustrated. I read in a newspaper article a while back that you have to write to the Gov. and ask for a pardon ....and since 1973 in the state of Wisconsin 13 pardons have been granted . That was the end of my search. should I be able to vote ? I wish I could

04-29-04, 05:23 PM	#15 (permalink)
MysteryMeat Ain't your momma's meat Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,364	Just playing devil's advocate here, I'm not really saying right or wrong on the issue, but let's say that felons were given back the right to vote (as a whole). Some smart politician is going to realize that there is a new available demographic to campaign to in an attempt to gain the votes of the convicted. What does this mean? Work toward shorter jail terms? More benefits and relief for ex-cons? What do you think a politician would be willing to do to garner more support?