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Old 04-30-04, 03:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What you should know about the DRAFT (just in case they decide to bring it back)

<Taken from a post in Yahoo groups>
(I'd give you the link but you'd just have to join the group)

From: douglass graham
Subject: Re: Is the Draft "Compulsory" If You "Register"?

I hope that you will not be offended if I tell you HOW THE "DRAFT" works. I realize that most people THINK they know how it works, but in most cases they are in error!

1. Mr. A receives a "draft notice" and is told to report on a certain date to a certain place where he receives his physical and mental tests...then he is classified with a number indicating whether he is A1(first called)...all the way down to 4F(unfit for duty).

2. Mr.A is told that he is to report for "induction" into the military and to appear at a certain military base for that purpose on a date specified.

3. By "LAW" he must appear there...or a warrant for his arrest will be issued.

4. Assuming he reports as directed he will have another brief physical and tests and then is told to "line up on the yellow line (painted on the floor) with the others."

5. A Recruiting Officer will then tell all those "joining the army (or
whatever)to take one step forward...(Oh, oh, THOSE WHO DID THIS JUST "VOLUNTEERED!")This is done so that no one can "legally" claim they were "forced into
involuntary servitude!" "RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND SWEAR ALLEGIANCE." (almost everyone does!...thinking it must be REQUIRED!): "I, (name) do solemnly swear that I
will bear true faith and allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America and will defend it against all enemies foreign and domestic, and will obey the orders of the President and the officers appointed over me, so help me God."

6. Those who "voluntarily" stepped forward CANNOT NOW CLAIM THEY WERE"DRAFTED"...they stepped forward voluntarily and took the Oath voluntarily!

7. Assume Mr. B was smarter than Mr. A and HE DID NOT STEP FORWARD ANDTHEREFORE DID NOT TAKE THE OATH OF ALLEGIANCE. (the recruiter will probably say
something like this: "what's the matter with you, don't you know what' step forward' means?" Mr. B responds, "sure I do, but I AM
NOTVOLUNTEERING TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY...If you want me you must 'take me' against my will by force!"

Comments:

One thing to say at this point is what the cops are coached to say on the witness stand: "Am I ordered?"

If the recruiter says No, then obviously you're OK. If the recruiter
says Yes, then "By what authority do you, a military officer, order me, a civilian?" If the recruiter says anything else, repeat the question until you get Yes or No.

If the recruiter says "I order you by the authority of the United States Government" then "Which clause of the Constitution gives you, a military officer, to order me, a civilian?"

Another thing to say is: "Am I free to go?" If the recruiter says Yes, then obviously leave. If the recruiter says No, then "Am I under arrest?
Am I your prisoner? Am I kidnapped? If I'm not free, then what am I?" and again, keep repeating the question.

Another thing to say is: "I want an attorney."

Another thing to say is, of course, nothing at all. I think I would go
with "Am I free to go?" because if you get to Yes, then you can leave and he would look bad ordering an arrest. If you ask the question three times and don't get a yes or no, then "Well I must be free to go, because I asked you three times and you won't tell me I'm not." Then I would slowly turn around and leave, and if he keeps trying to interact I would just keep repeating the question.

=== Here's an excerpt from a book:

The Army induction officer instructed the draftees to "take one step forward" as their names were called, and said that step would signify their induction into the Army. When reluctant Willie's name was called, he answered present, but did not step forward. After the ceremony, he went home instead of to camp. When the MP's came for him, he went to court for a writ of habeas corpus to retain his freedom. "The officer himself," Willie argued, "said the step forward is what would make me a soldier. As I didn't take the step, I'm still a civilian and the Army has no claim on me."
Counsel for the Army replied, "The Army isn't being run by childish
games. Willie and a hundred others appeared to be inducted, and he was inducted before the whole group as any fool there could plainly see." Willie retained his civilian status. The court ruled that the draft law required some definite ceremony to transform a civilian into a soldier. As the Army decided to have one step forward constitute the ceremony, and Willie didn't take the step, he wasn't a soldier. U.S. Court of Appeals, 1954

Note: Willie was sent another induction notice and was told
draft-evasion charges would be filed if he hung back. Willie stepped forward and served his time in the Army, as ordered.

Published in the Saturday Evening Post, republished in "You Be the Judge," The Curtis Publishing Company, 1979


P.S.: To prove draft evasion, I believe they must prove an "affirmative act" and failing to step forward is not an affirmative act.

8. All of those who "volunteered" will now be excused from the room...and the Mr. B will be cajoled with persuasive arguments...at first...then, when nothing works to change his mind he will be called names and insulted, possibly even assaulted by one or more military people present there as witnesses.

9. IF Mr. B does not weaken, stands his ground, eventually the tormentors will give up and have him arrested on some charge. However, there is NO lawful

way that they can MAKE him go into the military...because of the
Constitutional prohibition against "involuntary servitude"...which is why NO ONE IS TRULY EVER "DRAFTED" AND MUST "SEDUCED " INTO VOLUNTEERING !

D. R. Graham Ret. Sci. Instr. & Ret. Mil. Off'r, AUS

[the following was a comment in the thread where I found the above info:]
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ice-bucket/message/133

I got this information from a navy recruiter and know of this by first hand knowledge of a friend who "dun it"....

While registration "may" be mandatory for the selective service, it is also mandatory that if an individual is called up through the "draft, that he "report" to the draft board. WHAT IS NOT MANDATORY, is the requirement to "STEP FORWARD" when the oath is administered!

An individual has done his duty by reporting, but CANNOT be made to volunteer for entry into the services of the armed forces.

Yeah, he may be taken into a backroom and brow beaten and verbally assaulted, but he will be sent home and told to "wait" until further notice, which will not come!!

Forget "conscientious objector", just refuse to volunteer!
 
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