The New Black Panthers

What does everyone think about these guys running around the fronts of City Hall and Police stations making demands and threats of arming themselves?


Yay or Nay?

Adam D?

[Jopex]

*Grabs noose*

[Hey Bubu]

I got a mixed message from the media last night, first they were saying that minorities should make sure they do not get picked on, sure I can agree with that; but then they were saying that said minorities should react.

Yeah I am sure a cop or any other type of LE agent will just back off as soon as they start being attacked.

My thoughts are is that it's not the fucking 60's and that Dallas city politics are nothing more than one big shakedown beind led by ethnic "community leaders". They use their own people's ignorance to make themselves richer and service their own agendas.

"Embarrassing" would be the term I would use to describe things in this city in that particular context.

[johnny861]

The traditional idealogy of the Black Panthers I like... the New Black Panthers have come across as too militant a group....


I'm not for sure I agree with militant interest groups of any kind.

[Adam D]

I think it's funny, but I don't have to deal with it, either.

[Big Andy]

Second verse same as the first.


Tons of respectable african americans want the rights and respect they deserve, and a handful of uppity, ignorant niggers have to go fuck it up for everybody by pissing people off and being violent.


Sorry for using the N-word, but I think the distinction I am making is clear and emphatic.

[Adam D]

A serious response:

Dallas has a lot of problems. Like many other large cities, it ignores the problems in poorer areas and tries to appeal to it's wealthier constituents. That results in angry minority groups with little outlet for anger or any agency for change. If you look at what the most important issue in Dallas is right now, it's appeasing the Cowboys and trying to figure out a way to take city revenue and privatize it into the hands of a very wealthy man. There's no real talk about fixing some of the necessary and more salient problems in the city.

It's been that way for a long, long time.

The city has responded by treating the entire issue as a criminal matter and ignored the real problems at hand. To appease some of the minority groups, they have given token bureaucratic positions to some of their leaders, but nothing ever changes. Within the communities, much to the disliking of the rest of the city hall, there are a few outspoken members such as John Wylie Price who talk a good talk to their constituents but are complete shitbags when it comes down to it. Not because they are trying to advance real concerns for the area, but because they are trying to advance their own personal political power by tapping into that anger and giving empty promises. Price may have been a legit activist decades ago, but now he's just a corrupt politician.

I don't think the poor communities and minority communities do not deserve a voice and equal representation, because they absolutely do. The problem is that the only people outspoken enough to get their attention are self-serving. It's either go with these people or get fucked without any sort of voice. I don't blame them for picking the leadership that they do. But I think people also realize that their leaders aren't doing much either, so you end up with these sorts of militant activist groups popping back up.

It might not be the 60's again, but there is a lot of injustice and inequality handed down to them, and they certainly deserve better than what they are getting. The wealthier neighborhoods are used to better treatment so when these people show up demanding equal treatment, it looks a lot like a "shakedown" but until the poor areas start looking like Highland Park I'm disinclined to agree that it is. I'd rather see communities organizing themselves and working for change now than see things get back to the sort of injustice that existed before the Civil Rights Act.

[MysteryMeat]

Someone needs to avenge the firing of Terrell Bolton by that racist Mexican and uppity white woman we have running this city!

constitutional protections are to be blind to race and ideology

if one wishes to be armed - so be it - an exercise of a fundamental right

if one commits crimes while armed - arrest and convict

that's how the deal works

[crade25]

Originally posted by Big Andy
Second verse same as the first.


Tons of respectable african americans want the rights and respect they deserve, and a handful of uppity, ignorant niggers have to go fuck it up for everybody by pissing people off and being violent.


Sorry for using the N-word, but I think the distinction I am making is clear and emphatic.

I AGREE!!!!

Don't have an immense amount of time for response, but I was standing outside when they came marching up and stood in front of the police station several days ago. I fully respect their right to march, though I think militantism is a step in the wrong direction. Violence is suckass.

My main concern was with the fact that police (plainclothes, urban tactical, and standard dress) were swarming over several blocks in cars, vans, motorcycles, bicycles, and on foot. There were some on roofs, there were some on multiple floors. I counted more than 60 cops, though I'm certain there might have been 100+ surrounding the 10 or so wouldbe "black panthers". At 20-30/hr per cop, can we afford that sort of shit?

[MysteryMeat]

Originally posted by hyoomen
Don't have an immense amount of time for response, but I was standing outside when they came marching up and stood in front of the police station several days ago. I fully respect their right to march, though I think militantism is a step in the wrong direction. Violence is suckass.

My main concern was with the fact that police (plainclothes, urban tactical, and standard dress) were swarming over several blocks in cars, vans, motorcycles, bicycles, and on foot. There were some on roofs, there were some on multiple floors. I counted more than 60 cops, though I'm certain there might have been 100+ surrounding the 10 or so wouldbe "black panthers". At 20-30/hr per cop, can we afford that sort of shit?

It's a tricky distraction to draw attention away from white people getting robbed in Deep Ellum and Lower Greenville. It's rent week, foo.

Originally posted by hyoomen
Don't have an immense amount of time for response, but I was standing outside when they came marching up and stood in front of the police station several days ago. I fully respect their right to march, though I think militantism is a step in the wrong direction. Violence is suckass.

My main concern was with the fact that police (plainclothes, urban tactical, and standard dress) were swarming over several blocks in cars, vans, motorcycles, bicycles, and on foot. There were some on roofs, there were some on multiple floors. I counted more than 60 cops, though I'm certain there might have been 100+ surrounding the 10 or so wouldbe "black panthers". At 20-30/hr per cop, can we afford that sort of shit?

Your argument is one of the cost of labor hours vs police protection of the public and property (public and private)?

LA riots - huge event - huge damage. Lets say these guy did 1% of the damage of the LA riots.... of .5% of the damage. Was the cost of the police an economic benefit when compared to the damage that did not happen as a result? (the question comes down to the cost of harm prevention - what's it worth to you)

[reddaisy6]

I like to crash Black Panther Parties.