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MattM · 06-02-04, 04:33 PM

OK.

To me it seems as if a good majority of people love to criticize the executive branch of the government without paying any attention to the other two (arguably more powerful two) branches.

Is it because it is easy to point out flaws in one man instead of the popular opinion of a group? Is the President that powerful? Do people just jump on the bandwagon?

I'm just kinda rambling here BTW.

Hey Bubu · 06-02-04, 04:36 PM

Being the figure head of the government he makes the perfect target. Well that and the fact that he is a moron don't help him either.

Dionysos · 06-02-04, 04:37 PM

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Originally posted by MattM
OK.

To me it seems as if a good majority of people love to criticize the executive branch of the government without paying any attention to the other two (arguably more powerful two) branches.

Is it because it is easy to point out flaws in one man instead of the popular opinion of a group? Is the President that powerful? Do people just jump on the bandwagon?

I'm just kinda rambling here BTW.

When a football team sucks, everybody points to the quarterback too whether it's his fault or not. It's part of the job, shouldering blame that you may or may not have a role in.

johnny861 · 06-02-04, 04:40 PM

That's the fun part of a top-down institution, you have somebody to point the blame at if everything goes to shit...

Satchel · 06-02-04, 04:43 PM

It also makes it nice and convenient when that person IS to blame

Ryan · 06-02-04, 05:11 PM

Generally, members of Congress who are in the same party as the president do pretty much what the president tells them to do. Bush has coined the phrase "just get it done" as an order to the Republicans in Congress to pass his legislation or else. One example of this would be when he told them to get the ridiculous prescription drug plan passed and they proceeded to go against everything the Republican party once (supposedly) stood for to follow his orders and pass that turd. He, like all presidents, is the leader of his party and guides their direction, which is a large part of why the GOP is now The party of big government nanny states, in my opinion. There are a few notable exceptions to this rule, such as Senator John McCain and Rep. Ron Paul, but these folks are few and far between.

MattM · 06-02-04, 05:33 PM

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Originally posted by Ryan
Bush has coined the phrase "just get it done" as an order to the Republicans in Congress to pass his legislation or else.

Or else?!

What was Bush going to do? Break their legs?

Satchel · 06-02-04, 05:35 PM

The threat of veto is a very powerful weapon

Ryan · 06-02-04, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by MattM
Or else?!

What was Bush going to do? Break their legs?

Or else he'll do everything in his power to destroy them. Have you been following the all-out assault the Repubs have launched against John McCain? All of that started when he challenged Bush in 2000. He's been the black sheep of that party ever since.

MattM · 06-02-04, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Ryan
Have you been following the all-out assault the Repubs have launched against John McCain?

No, can't say I have. I was under the impression that McCain was highly respected. *shrugs*. I'm off to work.

Dionysos · 06-02-04, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Ryan
He's been the black sheep of that party ever since.

Which may very well win him the election in 2008. It's not like they can do anything about him in the Senate, he wins Arizona in a landslide every term.

06-02-04, 06:36 PM

The expansion of executive authority is troubling - but only slightly less troubling than the growth of power in the judicial branch assumed from the gleeful abdication by the legislative branch!

and we bitch about the executive becuase there's 1 of him while there are 535 legislators and oodles of judges - of whom most people may be able to name...say... one or two

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MattM Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 5=6 Posts: 1,926	Critcizing the Executive Branch? OK. To me it seems as if a good majority of people love to criticize the executive branch of the government without paying any attention to the other two (arguably more powerful two) branches. Is it because it is easy to point out flaws in one man instead of the popular opinion of a group? Is the President that powerful? Do people just jump on the bandwagon? I'm just kinda rambling here BTW.

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Hey Bubu Funky Spunk Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: take a left at the cow Posts: 17,137	Being the figure head of the government he makes the perfect target. Well that and the fact that he is a moron don't help him either. __________________ "We're so engaged in doing things to achieve purposes of outer value that we forget that the inner value, the rapture that is associated with being alive, is what it's all about." --Joseph Campbell,

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06-02-04, 04:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
Satchel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Plaino Posts: 2,973	It also makes it nice and convenient when that person IS to blame

06-02-04, 05:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
Ryan Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,783	Generally, members of Congress who are in the same party as the president do pretty much what the president tells them to do. Bush has coined the phrase "just get it done" as an order to the Republicans in Congress to pass his legislation or else. One example of this would be when he told them to get the ridiculous prescription drug plan passed and they proceeded to go against everything the Republican party once (supposedly) stood for to follow his orders and pass that turd. He, like all presidents, is the leader of his party and guides their direction, which is a large part of why the GOP is now The party of big government nanny states, in my opinion. There are a few notable exceptions to this rule, such as Senator John McCain and Rep. Ron Paul, but these folks are few and far between.

06-02-04, 05:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Satchel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Plaino Posts: 2,973	The threat of veto is a very powerful weapon

06-02-04, 06:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
xiannaix Guest Posts: n/a	The expansion of executive authority is troubling - but only slightly less troubling than the growth of power in the judicial branch assumed from the gleeful abdication by the legislative branch! and we bitch about the executive becuase there's 1 of him while there are 535 legislators and oodles of judges - of whom most people may be able to name...say... one or two