Kerry and Edwards caught in a bind

[bfp]

Kerry wants cheaper health care, and Edwards along with his trial lawyer status wants to drive up the costs by using litigation techniques he used to build his career by suing doctors and hospitals for billions of dollars.

How will this work out?

[Ryan]

Originally posted by bfp
Kerry wants cheaper health care, and Edwards along with his trial lawyer status wants to drive up the costs by using litigation techniques he used to build his career by suing doctors and hospitals for billions of dollars.

How will this work out?

Edwards has given up practicing law to pursure his political career, so it doesn't matter. That is one of the worst criticisms I've heard yet. Go fish.

[bfp]

Originally posted by Ryan
Edwards has given up practicing law to pursure his political career, so it doesn't matter. That is one of the worst criticisms I've heard yet. Go fish.

Geees. I was poking fun.

And just because he gave up the career doesn't mean he's not an advocate.

His top 20 donors are trial lawyers.

[Ryan]

Originally posted by bfp
Geees. I was poking fun.

And just because he gave up the career doesn't mean he's not an advocate.

His top 20 donors are trial lawyers.

If you can get him to admit that he wants to drive up medical costs, I'll stay home in November.

[Keith P]

lol
ok

what sources did you use to develop this hypothesis?

[bfp]

Originally posted by Keith P
lol
ok

what sources did you use to develop this hypothesis?

It's common knowledge. Trial lawyers raped corporations and doctors for almost 300 billion dollars last year, ultimately driving up prices of goods and services.

The first thing that comes to mind is the mother of an 8 year old in NY suing McDonalds for almost 10M because the food made her daughter fat.

[Keith P]

It's also common knowledge that corporations and doctors rape the american people for billions of dollars every year.
I'm sure that doesn't fit into your argument though.

[bfp]

Originally posted by Keith P
It's also common knowledge that corporations and doctors rape the american people for billions of dollars every year.
I'm sure that doesn't fit into your argument though.

Really? Could you be more specific on that one?

[Keith P]

You're the one throwing accusations around. Maybe you should consider backing up your claims with factual sources instead of copying and pasting the rhetoric on drudge report.

I'll give you a first hand account of what its like to visit a clinic without coverage. While switching health care providers I made a $130.00 visit to the doctor to find out I have a sinus infection.

[Element4040]

Originally posted by E-brake
Then when you go to the drug store and pay for your overpriced medication realize that in Canada you would have paid 1/2 the price of what you pay for the exact same drugs.

That were manufactured here...........

[bfp]

next time you do and you get their bill, keep in mind that in most civilized nations around the world the prices would have been 1/4 of what you pay as an american. Then when you go to the drug store and pay for your overpriced medication realize that in Canada you would have paid 1/2 the price of what you pay for the exact same drugs.

You really want to compare Canada's health care system to ours? Ask an average Canadian why they keep flooding across the border to our country for medical care.

And speaking of trial lawyers going to town on corporations, the tobacco settlement alone was over 300 billion wasn't it? I didn't say that the McDonalds suit survived, I knew it was thrown out, im showing you how far trial lawyers have gone in suing companies over lame accusations and how low the system has gone to rake in billions of dollars. Causing jobs to have been lost, and crippling buisness.

Edwards is/was/will be part of that problem.

[bfp]

Price controls are what keep the prices down in Canada. That's why.

And imposing price controls in America would be a recipe for disaster, being that America produces the drug.

If we were to impose price controls here in America, the standard, just as in other areas of life, would drastically decline because it cuts into the process of making the most effective drug available on the market. The costs will inevitably be eaten up somewhere down the line.

It's easier I guess, to point fingers and criticize than to actually find out the reasons why things are the way they are.

[bfp]

American Drug companies spend over twice the cost to develop the drug on marketing and advertisements to sell it to americans. If they were only worried about producing the best product to cure the desiese they wouldnt be spending their money on marketing.

In advertising dollars spent each year the Drug companies are ony surpased by the beverage industry. What does flash commercials and taking Doctors on expensive vacations have to do with us getting the best medicine?

What about spending 15 years, even 20 sometimes on research and development on the drug, trial and error, etc before they actually find the wonder drug they were looking for? Isn't that where most of the money goes as well? To future drug development?

[bfp]

Originally posted by E-brake
you should try that sometime

Yea, thanks.

[Element4040]

Originally posted by E-brake
American Drug companies spend over twice the cost to develop the drug on marketing and advertisements to sell it to americans. If they were only worried about producing the best product to cure the desiese they wouldnt be spending their money on marketing.

In advertising dollars spent each year the Drug companies are ony surpased by the beverage industry. What does flash commercials and taking Doctors on expensive vacations have to do with us getting the best medicine?

The purple little pill

Viagra on NASCAR

A herpes commercial every 5 seconds

Do you have heartburn, irritable bowels, high blood pressure etc......

Yep, definetely too much advertising dollars being spent.

Not to mention, go spend about 2 hours in the Dr. Office and come back and tell me how many drug reps come in and out that door. Then follow them into the parking lot and tell me what kind of car they are driving for basically delivering "trials" to the Dr. office.

You think we are paying extra for this? Nah certainly not.

WTF? Do we need to advertise for "Prescription" drugs? You either need them or you don't. Your doctor should be "telling" you what you need, not the other way around.

Another example things are out of control. I had my shoulder repaired this summer. The "Procedure" that took all of 1 1/2 hours cost, get this, over 10,000 dollars. When you can buy a car for the price of repairing a tendon, things are out of control!