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Old 08-24-04, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Kerry repeatedly questioned Bush's service

Kerry Personally, Repeatedly Questioned Bush's Guard Service

President Bush has never questioned John Kerry's Vietnam War service - saying instead on multiple occasions that it was noble and something the Democratic nominee should be proud of.

Sen. Kerry, on the other hand, has repeatedly - in person, during on-the-record interviews - charged that Bush conducted himself dishonorably during the Vietnam War.

The distinction is an important one, since Kerry - now in full damage control mode over charges he fabricated parts of his war record - continues to maintain that the White House is behind the criticism and is demanding that Bush personally call off the dogs.

But if any apologies are in order they should start with Kerry, who has tried to smear Bush in a way that neither Bush, nor anyone else associated with the Bush Cheney campaign, has dared to even try.

Here's Kerry during an April 26, 2004 appearance on ABC's "Good Morning America" complaining about a report questioning which medals he threw away during a 1971 anti-war demonstration:

"This comes from a president and a Republican party that can't even answer whether or not he showed up for duty in the National Guard. I'm not going to stand for it," the top Democrat told GMA's Charlie Gibson.

In case anybody missed his Bush smear, Kerry repeated it two more times during the same interview:

"The Republicans are running $10 million this week to attack my credentials on defense. This comes from a president who can't even show or prove that he showed up for duty in the National Guard. . . ."

Here's Kerry's third attempt to slime Bush's Guard service in less than ten minutes:

"George Bush has yet to explain to America whether or not, and tell the truth, about whether he showed up for duty. I'm not going to get attacked on something that I did, that is a matter of record, that the press saw, that I did in front of the entire nation, and everyone then understood."

And it's not as if Kerry was having a bad day and simply flew off the handle without thinking. Instead, Kerry's April 26 attack on Bush's Guard service echoed similar smears by the candidate only weeks earlier.

Here's Kerry on Feb. 8, arguing that the fact that Bush received an honorable discharge doesn't get him off the hook on suspicions he was a no-show during his time with the Guard:

"The issue here, as I have heard it raised, is was he present and active on duty in Alabama at the times he was supposed to be," Kerry declared. "Just because you get an honorable discharge does not in fact answer that question."

Five days earlier during an appearance on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes," Kerry compared Bush's Guard service to those who fled to Canada during the Vietnam War.

"There is a question that's been raised about whether -- about what [Bush's] service was. And I don't know the answers to those questions," he told Sean Hannity.

"I've never made any judgments about any choice somebody made about avoiding the draft, about going to Canada, going to jail, being a conscientious objector [or] going into the National Guard. Those are choices people make."

How about it, Sen. Kerry? Care to apologize to President Bush for opening this particular Pandora's Box?
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Old 08-24-04, 11:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How about including a source?
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Old 08-24-04, 12:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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How about including a source?

Do you need a source to verify something Kerry said?

The accusations are already cited internally and explain what he said while he was being interviewed.
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A source for where you get your information would be good. God forbid anyone that anyone would want to verify the stuff you post. Or perhaps add some credibility to the stuff you put up.

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Do you need a source to verify something Kerry said?

The accusations are already cited internally and explain what he said while he was being interviewed.
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A source for where you get your information would be good. God forbid anyone that anyone would want to verify the stuff you post. Or perhaps add some credibility to the stuff you put up.

Ok this post is full of shit. Kerry didn't say these things. It was all made up.
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Old 08-24-04, 12:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Again, you miss the point. The author of the article might want some credit for their work. Also, the organization that published said journalists work might want some credit for running the story. And some of us would actually like to verify your source. But it's quite apparent you think we should take your word for it.

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Ok this post is full of shit. Kerry didn't say these things. It was all made up.
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Old 08-24-04, 12:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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i was listening to howard stern yesterday morning and he brought up a good point... if one draft dodger went to the war then that could have saved a life of someone who died. I'm not saying that Bush or any other dodger would have died in the persons place I'm saying that some deaths could have been prevented.... actually I don't know what I'm saying.
 
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i was listening to howard stern yesterday morning and he brought up a good point... if one draft dodger went to the war then that could have saved a life of someone who died. I'm not saying that Bush or any other dodger would have died in the persons place I'm saying that some deaths could have been prevented.... actually I don't know what I'm saying.

Howard Stern has no idea what he's talking about. What an idiot that man is. He has no political knowledge, and hasn't spoken of politics until the FCC ordeal. He has been spitting out conspiracy theories continually and taking them as fact.

Since he started talking about politics, I've lost alot of respect for him.
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did i say that he had political knowledge?NO i didn't! I said he has a good point about some issues involving the war. but i guess that's the liberal in me talking
 
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did i say that he had political knowledge?NO i didn't! I said he has a good point about some issues involving the war. but i guess that's the liberal in me talking


Im speaking on my behalf, not yours. Sorry if you took offense.
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Not true. Stern has spoken of politics before the FCC came down on him. Stern was nominated as a Gubenitorial Candidate for New York in 94. He might not know anything about politics, but he has spoken of, and taken part in.

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In 1994 Stern embarked on a political campaign for Governor of the state of New York, formally announcing his candidacy under the Libertarian Party ticket. Although he legally qualified for the office and campaigned for a time after his nomination, many viewed the run for office as nothing more than a publicity stunt. He subsequently withdrew his candidacy because he did not want to comply with the financial disclosure requirements for candidates.
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He has no political knowledge, and hasn't spoken of politics until the FCC ordeal. He has been spitting out conspiracy theories continually and taking them as fact.

Since he started talking about politics, I've lost alot of respect for him.
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Howard Stern has no idea what he's talking about. What an idiot that man is. He has no political knowledge, and hasn't spoken of politics until the FCC ordeal. He has been spitting out conspiracy theories continually and taking them as fact.

Since he started talking about politics, I've lost alot of respect for him.
So you think that the FCC is doing a good job?
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Okay - he may have spoken of politics in the past, but it sure seems as if he has no clue of what's going on in the political world.
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I'll agree with you there. I think the man is a class A baffoon.

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Okay - he may have spoken of politics in the past, but it sure seems as if he has no clue of what's going on in the political world.
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