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Old 08-25-04, 05:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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10 Nobel Prize-Winning Economists Endorse John Kerry

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Here come the flood of people claiming they didn't deserve their Nobel Prizes.
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Old 08-25-04, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here come the flood of people claiming they didn't deserve their Nobel Prizes.

Who knows if they deserved them or not. Let's assume they did.

What I'd like to know is why they are qualified to speak authoritatively on the issue of whom should be the President of the US?
 
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Who knows if they deserved them or not. Let's assume they did.

What I'd like to know is why they are qualified to speak authoritatively on the issue of whom should be the President of the US?
Well, first off, they are experts on economics and that is a slightly important subject when speaking about presidential qualifications. Do you disagree?

It's also says something about the two candidates that Nobel Prize winners support one and Toby Keith, Alice Cooper, and a NASCAR driver support the other.
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Old 08-25-04, 07:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well, first off, they are experts on economics and that is a slightly important subject when speaking about presidential qualifications. Do you disagree?
I agree economics is important. I'd need to know more about the individuals in question before I commented on any of their specific qualifications. Secondly, I'd limit their importance to the areas of their expertise. (Eg - I'm not going to take John Maynard Keynes opinion to heart on how to prosecute a war or how to onduct foreign policy etc)

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It's also says something about the two candidates that Nobel Prize winners support one and Toby Keith, Alice Cooper, and a NASCAR driver support the other.
Sure does. There are a lot more fans of Alice Cooper, Toby Keith and NASCAR than there are people who've ever heard of anyone on that list - - so much for the celebrity endorsement of the Nobel Laureates.
 
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Old 08-25-04, 07:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd add that these are the same guys that predicted tens of thousands of refuges fleeing Iraq among other things that never happened. (It may have been a different group of Nobel Laureates but you get my point - these guys are at their best in a classroom not the real world)
 
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As opposed to Bush and his gang who predicted flower parades for our liberating heroes
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As opposed to Bush and his gang who predicted flower parades for our liberating heroes

yeah well - we can agree that the post combat planning was poor at best.

However, the refugees didn't materialize either - so - score = 0 to 0 on that one
 
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I think everyone underestimated their interest in sticking around to get a slice of the new pie, and also their ability to do so by opposing us.
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I would really like to know their backgrounds as well. Every economist I've seen over the past few months has laid out Kerry's economic plan, and it supposedly doesn't sit well with them. They've all tried seperate layouts in order to achieve positive results, and the only solution would to be raise taxes.

If that's a good economics, then go for it.

But we will probably have a conservative congress, so that should hold him down. It's always good to have a counterbalance in washington.
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I think everyone underestimated their interest in sticking around to get a slice of the new pie, and also their ability to do so by opposing us.

True.

They've introduced a new method of war fighting. Screw the battlefield. Let the 800 lb gorilla knock out the guy you despise - then wait for the opportunity to assert yourself through whatever means necessary. Some - are bullying their way to the table by force and it just may work out for them. Or him, Al Sadr.
 
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But we will probably have a conservative congress, so that should hold him down. It's always good to have a counterbalance in washington.
Good, because they certainly have not held GW back. The only way we're going to get Repubs to display any fiscal conservatism is to pair them with a Democratic president.
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone try to trivialize Nobel Prize winners. I always thought that was the ultimate in credibility. Your analogy is on point.


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wha? what does someone having fans have to do with their credibility?

britney spears has alot of fans.. does that make her more intelligent than the nobel prize winners?
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wha? what does someone having fans have to do with their credibility?

britney spears has alot of fans.. does that make her more intelligent than the nobel prize winners?

The point was about name recognition.

The credibility factor is open for any of them to establish - none of those at issue have it inherently from anyting they've done.

Let me remind you that Arafat won the Nobel Peace Prize.... http://www.nobel.se/peace/laureates/1994/

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I was just kidding - sorta. People in academia have generally always tended toward liberalism and the Democratic party. That may be an asset or a liability, depending on your view of "intelligentsia." Unfortunately for the Dems, these academic intellectuals are far outnumbered by fans of country music, heavy metal, and NASCAR.
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Now Ryan, everyone that likes car racing, and heavy metal is a redneck.

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I was just kidding - sorta. People in academia have generally always tended toward liberalism and the Democratic party. That may be an asset or a liability, depending on your view of "intelligentsia." Unfortunately for the Dems, these academic intellectuals are far outnumbered by fans of country music, heavy metal, and NASCAR.
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