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Old 09-20-04, 03:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I'm Starting to Like Teresa Heinz-Kerry

First, she told a reporter to "shove it." Then, she called opponents of Kerry's healthcare plan "idiots." And now, she calls he critics "scumbags." Now I know some of you call this "elitist" (which, let's face it, is because you don't like her current party affiliation), but I call it "real." She should keep her cool for her husband's sake, but I think it's a breath of fresh air to have some - anyone - in the Washington spotlight who doesn't speak in rehersed phrases.

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Old 09-20-04, 04:03 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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i dont think the rest of the country agrees.. i think its only a matter of time until she gets crucified for speaking her mind in the way she does.
She's already been crucified by the right-wing press for speaking her mind. I realize that the rest of the country likes easily-digestible pieces of pre-scripted cliche, but I like people who say what's on their mind.
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Hey I like her frankness, sometimes it looks misdirected, but many times I am watching a TV report, or reading something and I want to call the reporter an idiot. Me likes it...

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I like her quite a bit. We need more people like her whether you agree with her or not. Just like I don't agree with McCain often, but I think I would still vote for him due to his honesty.
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She's already been crucified by the right-wing press for speaking her mind. I realize that the rest of the country likes easily-digestible pieces of pre-scripted cliche, but I like people who say what's on their mind.
Unless it's Cheney.


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I'd like to hear her tell someone to "go fuck themselves"
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I'd like to hear her tell someone to "go fuck themselves"
Honestly, me too.

As a side note, am I the only one that thinks she's tranq'ed out? Every time I see her speak, she reminds me of somebody that took too much valium.
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First, she told a reporter to "shove it." Then, she called opponents of Kerry's healthcare plan "idiots." And now, she calls he critics "scumbags." Now I know some of you call this "elitist" (which, let's face it, is because you don't like her current party affiliation), but I call it "real." She should keep her cool for her husband's sake, but I think it's a breath of fresh air to have some - anyone - in the Washington spotlight who doesn't speak in rehersed phrases.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040927fa_fact
so then Cheney telling somebody "fuck you" is keeping it real?

I think it's rude, no matter who is doing it...
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Unless it's Cheney.


/stirs the pot
That was actually the first thing he's done that I approved of.
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I think name calling and below the belt quips like bush calling that reporter and asshole and not apologizing... It's not constructive, it fires people up into an angry mob and what gets accomplished? More people finger pointing, instigating needless shit... what value is received from this? A Romanesque desire for senseless drama?

We moved away from working together collectively to "get the job done", to selfish individualists skirting the issues and shifting the blame....

I want to see more accountability and more people taking ownership and responsibility over problems than saying, yea... well, these guys are fucking idiots... look at this problem... that's why you should listen to us...

yes yes... but are you going to take ownership of the problem? or just carry on shirking responsibility like the others, because maybe its a problem that requires one to get a lil dirty to fix it...
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As a side note, am I the only one that thinks she's tranq'ed out? Every time I see her speak, she reminds me of somebody that took too much valium.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!

I told my mom the same thing but I thought it might be Xanax.


I dig this woman alot. I see good things happening in the future.
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I think name calling and below the belt quips like bush calling that reporter and asshole and not apologizing... It's not constructive, it fires people up into an angry mob and what gets accomplished? More people finger pointing, instigating needless shit... what value is received from this? A Romanesque desire for senseless drama?

We moved away from working together collectively to "get the job done", to selfish individualists skirting the issues and shifting the blame....

I want to see more accountability and more people taking ownership and responsibility over problems than saying, yea... well, these guys are fucking idiots... look at this problem... that's why you should listen to us...

yes yes... but are you going to take ownership of the problem? or just carry on shirking responsibility like the others, because maybe its a problem that requires one to get a lil dirty to fix it...
We are governed by people who carefully choose every word before it comes out of their mouth. You can practically see the puppet strings over GW's head when he speaks, or the thoughtful estimates of crowd reaction by John Kerry before he says a sentence. The fact is, the reporter who questioned her was being an asshole, many of Kerry's critics are "idiots" and all of the people trying to tear this woman apart because they don't like her husband's party are "scumbags." I'm glad she said it. We need more people with nuts running the show, not less.
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We are governed by people who carefully choose every word before it comes out of their mouth. You can practically see the puppet strings over GW's head when he speaks, or the thoughtful estimates of crowd reaction by John Kerry before he says a sentence. The fact is, the reporter who questioned her was being an asshole, many of Kerry's critics are "idiots" and all of the people trying to tear this woman apart because they don't like her husband's party are "scumbags." I'm glad she said it. We need more people with nuts running the show, not less.

The overly cautious nature of people in the Bush Administration is still skirting responsibility in my eyes... There's a medium that needs to be achieved that can be both diplomatic and responsible to the needs of the nation... It seems like people fail to see their potential and so sneak around to get whatever they can get while the opportunity is there... I guess I'm just daydreaming....
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