Kerry Desperate; Using scare tactics

[bfp]

http://www.nationalreview.com/kerry/kerryspot.asp

John Kerry is now echoing Internet hoaxes!

Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry, citing the war in Iraq and other trouble spots in the world, raised the possibility Wednesday that a military draft could be reinstated if voters re-elect President Bush.

Kerry said he would not bring back the draft and questioned how fairly it was administered in the past.

Answering a question about the draft that had been posed at a forum with voters, Kerry said: "If George Bush were to be re-elected, given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea and Iran and other places, is it possible? I can't tell you."

Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and other Pentagon officials have been asked numerous times whether they thought a draft would be necessary to maintain force levels in Iraq. They have said consistently that they think it is neither necessary nor desirable, since today's military is built on volunteer service and professionalism.

What next, is Kerry going to denounce the U.S. Postal Service's plan to tax e-mail?

This is not the move of a campaign confident about where it is in the polls.

[bfp]

The cold hard facts:


There is pending legislation in the House and Senate, S89 and HR 163,to reinstate mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages18-26) starting June 15, 2005. This plan includes women in the draft, eliminates higher education as a shelter, and makes it difficult to cross into Canada.
But what the e-mail does not tell you is who is sponsoring it. So let me repeat it again:

Bill Summary & Status for the 108th Congress S.89. Hollings (D-SC) sponsored it. It has no other sponsors. The Republicans have kept it bottled up in committee for nearly two years.

Bill Summary & Status for the 108th Congress H.R.163. Sponsored by Rangel (D-NY). All the co-sponsors are Democrats. Not one Republican. It's been held up since March 2003.

Michelle Malkin is on this too.

Here's a reality check from military.com. Excerpt:

"A draft? It's just not going to happen," said Rep. John Kline, R-Minn., a member of the House Armed Services Committee.

Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, the senior Democrat on the Senate Armed Services personnel subcommittee, agreed: "There is very little support in Congress for reinstating the draft."

MISLEADING E-MAIL

Perhaps those comments will help steady the nerves of many Americans apparently rattled by an e-mail that is circulating nationwide. It says that legislation is pending in Congress that would reinstitute the draft for the first time since 1973, starting as early as next spring. It also says that the administration is "quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's attention is on the elections."

There is a kernel of truth to the allegation -- there is a bill pending that would restart the draft. But the Bush administration opposes it, as do Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry and the leadership of both the Democratic and Republican parties in Congress. Everyone remotely in a position to know is quite sure that the bill is going nowhere.

"I don't know anyone in the executive branch of the government who believes that it would be appropriate or necessary to reinstitute the draft," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in April.

The bill's primary sponsor is Rep. Charles Rangel, a liberal Democrat from New York who represents Harlem. Even he admitted that his bill won't pass. He said he introduced it to get people to discuss who is doing the fighting in Iraq...

So tell the kids to wipe their noses and stop worrying about getting drafted.

Not. Gonna. Happen.

[Ryan]

Was it a "scare tactic" when Cheney said that Kerry would increase the likelihood of a terrorist attack?

[question]

No way, that's not what he was saying at all!

/sarcasm

Originally Posted by Ryan

Was it a "scare tactic" when Cheney said that Kerry would increase the likelihood of a terrorist attack?

[Ash]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Was it a "scare tactic" when Cheney said that Kerry would increase the likelihood of a terrorist attack?

The draft is not a scare tactic, it's real. That's why you register for selective service when you turn 18. Telling the nation that we will be attacked by terrorists if we don't vote for Bush, is not only a scare tactic, but down right idiotic. BFP, you're seriously delusional.

[bfp]

Originally Posted by Ryan

Was it a "scare tactic" when Cheney said that Kerry would increase the likelihood of a terrorist attack?

Let's see which comment holds more credibility:

When presidents are replaced, and top figures within each branch of government are replaced and appointed by the new president, wouldn't that increase the chance of an attack, being that they have no idea what's going on in the first few months? Look at what happened with 9/11. Condi Rice, the CIA and the state department were still getting their feet wet in regards to implementing their own strategies. Condi Rice said just after Bush was inaugurated that new strategies need to be put into place in order to break down certain barriers that the 'old' frame of gov't had set up. Is it wise to replace the current team with a new team in the middle of a war? Was it wise in the past? The answer is no.

Couple that with John Kerry's voting record and his passive stance against such measures.

BFP, you're seriously delusional.

Please, do clarify your comments in detail.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by bfp

Let's see which comment holds more credibility:

When presidents are replaced, and top figures within each branch of government are replaced and appointed by the new president, wouldn't that increase the chance of an attack, being that they have no idea what's going on in the first few months? Look at what happened with 9/11. Condi Rice, the CIA and the state department were still getting their feet wet in regards to implementing their own strategies. Condi Rice said just after Bush was inaugurated that new strategies need to be put into place in order to break down certain barriers that the 'old' frame of gov't had set up. Is it wise to replace the current team with a new team in the middle of a war? Was it wise in the past? The answer is no.

Couple that with John Kerry's voting record and his passive stance against such measures.




Please, do clarify your comments in detail.

Are you going to answer my question or not?

[Ash]

You're delusional because you skew Kerry's words talking about the draft as a "scare tactic". What in the hell is so scary about the draft? How is that in any way a scare tactic? Maybe for you because you'd shit your pants the first day at MEPS, but I don't see how it is frightening to an entire nation like Cheney's comments. The 9-11 attacks were in the works for years before Bush came into office, it doesn't matter who was stepping into the White House or at what time, it probably would have gone down the same way.

[bfp]

Are you going to answer my question or not?

No, it's not a scare tactic. Not when you look at his whole response. When you take his comments out of context(which the press did obvoiusly) then you would take it that way.

Would changing seats within the government increase the chances? Of course. Looking at how Kerry has approached these issues in the past makes the case even more clear.

I'm sorry that the facts do not sit well with you, but the chances would indeed increase no matter how you look at it.

[bfp]

You're delusional because you skew Kerry's words talking about the draft as a "scare tactic". What in the hell is so scary about the draft?

You have to be kidding me.

The 9-11 attacks were in the works for years before Bush came into office, it doesn't matter who was stepping into the White House or at what time, it probably would have gone down the same way.

Condi Rice immediately brought to light what changes were needed in order to strengthen our intelligence agencies. 'The Wall' comes to mind, which was set up by members of the Clinton administration. The CIA couldn't interrogate Moussoui, who was arrested by the FBI. The case was 'sealed', so the CIA couldn't approach the individual one month before the attacks to find out what he was up to.

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Okay, are we talking about the spending bill that Kerry voted for that was cutting down spending on the A1 tank, and all that jazz? Back around 93 or so, during the Bush Sr.'s administration?

You know who suggested, and pushed hard for all those defense cuts because he felt they weren't needed since the cold war was over, don't you?

Originally Posted by bfp

No, it's not a scare tactic. Not when you look at his whole response. When you take his comments out of context(which the press did obvoiusly) then you would take it that way.

Would changing seats within the government increase the chances? Of course. Looking at how Kerry has approached these issues in the past makes the case even more clear.

I'm sorry that the facts do not sit well with you, but the chances would indeed increase no matter how you look at it.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by bfp

No, it's not a scare tactic. Not when you look at his whole response. When you take his comments out of context(which the press did obvoiusly) then you would take it that way.

Would changing seats within the government increase the chances? Of course. Looking at how Kerry has approached these issues in the past makes the case even more clear.

I'm sorry that the facts do not sit well with you, but the chances would indeed increase no matter how you look at it.

OK, so to be clear, Kerry's stating that Bush might bring the draft is a scare tactic, but Cheney claiming that Kerry might bring on terrorism is not. I'm glad that you could clear it up for us.

[Ryan]

This is the quote from Kerry, which came in direct response to a question asked of him:

"If George Bush were to be re-elected, given the way he has gone about this war and given his avoidance of responsibility in North Korea and Iran and other places, is it possible? I can't tell you."

He DID NOT say that Bush was going to bring back the draft, he said he couldn't say. Was he supposed to speak for Bush? How is this a "scare tactic?" You're nuts.

[Ash]

Originally Posted by bfp

You have to be kidding me.

I'm not scared about the draft. Neither is are my 60 year old parents or my 27 year old ex wife. Anybody with any sense of pride or duty wouldn't have a problem with the draft being enstated. It's in place for a reason. Telling me that my family will more likelly be killed by terrorists because I didn't vote for an incompetant, warmongering, fiscally irresponsible asshole from Texas is scary.

[Vosh]

::Shakes Head::

Someone clarify this, so.. is he for real or is bfp just a troll?