HR163 - Mandatory Military Service

[JeremyWord]

this is some scary ass shit they are proposing....whats even scarier is that it is the first I have heard about it.

Anyone have any more info?


Universal National Service Act of 2003 (Introduced in House)
(a) OBLIGATION FOR YOUNG PERSONS- It is the obligation of every citizen of the United States, and every other person residing in the United States, who is between the ages of 18 and 26 to perform a period of national service as prescribed in this Act unless exempted under the provisions of this Act.

So basically, 2 years mandatory military service after high school???!? That is rediculous!

Look up http://www.senate.gov/ and type in HR163 for the full bill info.

[Import]

They voted to not vote on it.

Because someone else describes it so much better than me . . . What most people and people who join the military do not realize is that NO ONE signs up for any less than 8 years of service.

Even if you sign a 3 year contract, the next 5 years after you are out, you are considered "Inactive Reserve". Which means that if anything happens they can call you back in.

A majority of people who were called back fit into that category.

The "Inactive Reserve" clause has been in effect for a very long time. It predates many presidents and I think it dates back to the end of WW2.

here is a definition:
"A manpower pool comprised principally of individuals having had training, having served previously in the AC or in the Selected Reserve, and having some period of their military service obligation (MSO) remaining. IRR members are in an active status, but do not perform regularly scheduled training."

http://www.defenselink.mil/ra/second...onentsfaq.html

"Generally, a military contract is for 8 years. If you serve 4 years active, you have four years of IRR (inactive ready reserve), although you can do that in active reserve. Officers are in IRR until they give up their commission."

[prince vlad]

im almost too old for that nonsense.

[Ash]

been there done that not worried about it

[Dionysos]

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/d/draft.htm

Summary of the eRumor
The eRumor warns that there are two bills before Congress that, if passed, would bring back the military draft and make it mandatory for both boys and girls starting in June, 2005.

The Truth
The bills, S.89 and H.R.163 are real.
But they are not new.
An eRumor started circulating in June, 2004 warning that the draft was only a year away.
In reality, these twin bills have existed since 2003 and have never gotten out of committees.
In other words, they are stagnant.
Nobody in Washington seriously expects a draft and certainly not by 2005.
It's known as the "reinstate draft" bill or the "Universal National Service Act of 2003."
The wording of the bill says it is "To provide for the common defense by requiring that all young persons in the United States, including women, perform a period of military service or a period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, and for other purposes."
It would require U.S. citizens and other residents, both male and female, between the ages of 18 and 26 to serve two years of "national service."

The reason the bills have gotten attention in 2004 is the military actions in Afghanistan, Iraq, and the war on terrorism.
There has been debate about troop strength in Iraq and the status of all the U.S. Armed Forces.
The U.S. Selective Service, however, says that despite the Internet stories, the agency is not getting ready to conduct a draft.
It says it is ready to do so should the President and Congress decide, but "that responsibility has been ongoing since 1980 and is nothing new."
The Selective Service further says that "...both the President and the Secretary of Defense have stated on more than one occasion that there is no need for a draft for the War on Terrorism or any likely contingency, such as Iraq. Additionally, the Congress has not acted on any proposed legislation to reinstate a draft."