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Old 09-23-04, 02:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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U.S. about to sell Israel nearly 5000 smart bombs.



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Statement from the U.S. Defense Securtiy Cooperation Agency - "The sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been and continues to be an important force for political stability and economic progress in the Middle East"

Seriously, does Israel really need anymore technologically advanced weaponry to combat Palestinian rock throwers?

Apache helicopters, hellfire missiles and tanks not enough?

This is fucken stupid.
 
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Old 09-23-04, 02:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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precisely why they fucking hate us over there.
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we'd be better off dropping those 5k smart bombs on israel.
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Old 09-23-04, 03:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Apache helicopters, hellfire missiles and tanks not enough?
We also sell shit loads of Apache gunships to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, we do not sell tanks to Isarel but we do to our arab allies.
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Seriously, does Israel really need anymore technologically advanced weaponry to combat Palestinian rock throwers?
Palestinian moms and dads are the best in the world, instead of having their kids in school they encourage them to go confront soldiers and if they are killed no worries it helps our cause one mom says and don't forget to pick up your 72 virgins.
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we'd be better off dropping those 5k smart bombs on israel.
What are you a Nazi? Reading to many of them Hitler Aryan propaganda books.
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Old 09-23-04, 03:19 PM   #5 (permalink)
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We also sell shit loads of Apache gunships to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the United Arab Emirates, we do not sell tanks to Isarel but we do to our arab allies.
So throwing Israel into the frey of Garage Sale participants is okay? Is Egypt butting heads with poorly armed forces? Just because we sell to one makes it right to sell to another?

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Palestinian moms and dads are the best in the world, instead of having their kids in school they encourage them to go confront soldiers and if they are killed no worries it helps our cause one mom says .
You seriously believe thats whats exactly happening over there?
Parents are quickly scooping the remains of their children off the street with a smile and the solace of knowing their child died a martyr?
Are the schools within the settlements even up to par for children to attend?

I still dont see what the benefit is of selling FIVE THOUSAND precision guided missiles to a country that if anything doesnt really need them.

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Old 09-23-04, 04:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think we should sell the same things to the Palestinians, sit back, and watch them destroy the fuck out of themselves. Now THAT's what I call War-volume 12
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Old 09-23-04, 05:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's a political move to pressure Iran. Iran is starting to thumb their nose a bit at the UN and persuing Uranium enrichment. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just my take on the move.
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I'm actually not so concerned with us selling weapons to other countries... Simply because other countries are going to buy weapons regardless of who's selling them...

Same thing with military training... so, we sell military weapons and train troops in Saudi Arabia... the plus side is, the weapons we sold them were US surplus and the military training we gave them came from American forces... So at least we know exactly what we are dealing with...

If we ever have to go to war with Saudi Arabia, we definitely have a one-up by predicting what their strategies might be in combat based on their troops movements and available arsenal....

The reality is, somebody is going to do sell weapons and training, might as well be us instead of the Russians or the EU, or perhaps China...

And I'm sure there are plenty of political reasons for doing what we do... America doesn't seem to judge things on morally right and wrong, but rather cause and effect...
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Palestinian moms and dads are the best in the world, instead of having their kids in school they encourage them to go confront soldiers and if they are killed no worries it helps our cause one mom says and don't forget to pick up your 72 virgins.
You're such a moron, you really have no clue?

God you're a hopeless cause. I don't think you know many Palestinians, do you? They're not the savages you make them out to be.
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It's a political move to pressure Iran. Iran is starting to thumb their nose a bit at the UN and persuing Uranium enrichment. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, just my take on the move.
I'd agree with that - Israel is gonna need some smartbombs to take out Iranian Nuclear reactors.

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I'm actually not so concerned with us selling weapons to other countries... Simply because other countries are going to buy weapons regardless of who's selling them...
That's a drug dealers logic.
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I'd agree with that - Israel is gonna need some smartbombs to take out Iranian Nuclear reactors.
I'm sure thats the only thing Israel is going to reserve them for.
They wouldnt dare use one or three on a "supposed" safe house or residential neighborhood.
 
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I'm sure thats the only thing Israel is going to reserve them for.
They wouldnt dare use one or three on a "supposed" safe house or residential neighborhood.
Nope, wouldn't dare, of course they wouldn't
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That's a drug dealers logic.

Perhaps, but it's really not a logic that necessarily approves nor condemns it... Just stating the situation as it stands...
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Perhaps, but it's really not a logic that necessarily approves nor condemns it... Just stating the situation as it stands...
Of course it condemns it. When I say it's a "Drug dealers logic" it means it is irresponsible. A drug dealer would use that exact justification "Well, they either buy from me or they buy from someone else" to sell crack to children.
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America doesn't seem to judge things on morally right and wrong, but rather cause and effect...

ya know...i was reading the thread and you made some damn good points until you got to this.....
cause and effect my ass..we go in and bull our way into any mess that serves to give monetary gain...thats it..theres no altruism..its all about money...and bush is too stupid to see the effect...
for example..look at the iraqi problem...if he had taken the time to look at the effects part...we might actually have those 1000+ dead troops living with their families instead of being maggot farms
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