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question · 09-28-04, 09:21 AM

WHEATON, Maryland (AP) -- A pregnant woman said she was handcuffed by transit police and forced to lie on her stomach during an arrest that began with her talking too loudly on her cell phone.

Sakinah Aaron, 23, said she feared her unborn baby would be harmed when the officer forced her to the ground and put his knee in her back at a bus stop earlier this month. A doctor later said her 5-month-old fetus was not harmed.

"I'm thinking between the ground and his knee, my water is going to break and I'm going to have a miscarriage or something," she said of the September 9 incident.

Deputy Chief Timothy Gronau said Monday that Officer George Saoutis followed police procedure after Aaron refused to stop cursing loudly during a cell phone conversation and became abusive and uncooperative.

Aaron said the officer approached her as she walked to catch a bus, telling her to keep her voice down. She twice tried to break away, but he caught her arm, then placed her face down, handcuffed her, and charged her with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

Aaron was scheduled to appear in court on October 21.

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psyon · 09-28-04, 09:50 AM

thats what usually happens when you resist arrest

question · 09-28-04, 10:04 AM

Ahh, so you should endager the life of an unborn child because someone is resisting?

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Originally Posted by psyon

thats what usually happens when you resist arrest

Hey Bubu · 09-28-04, 10:18 AM

Hmm I wonder if they train police people to deal with crazy pregos....

psyon · 09-28-04, 10:21 AM

no I don't really agree with the officers actions...but to me it seems the woman put her own baby in danger by not cooperating with the cops

if she had done like the police asked...situation could have been avoided alltogether...no?

question · 09-28-04, 10:24 AM

Her resistance is irrelevant. The officer should know that you don't put pregnant women on their stomachs. PERIOD. She wasn't being detained until the officer grabbed her. Until he tried to grab her and she resisted, she'd done nothing wrong. Last I checked, there wasn't a law saying someone can't yell profanities. Secondly, the officer should have more tact in handling such a situation. If my wife, or girlfriend were treated in such a manner, I'd have that officer strung up. That's complete and total disregard for the woman, and the unborn child in her womb.

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Originally Posted by psyon

no I don't really agree with the officers actions...but to me it seems the woman put her own baby in danger by not cooperating with the cops

if she had done like the police asked...situation could have been avoided alltogether...no?

question · 09-28-04, 10:25 AM

If a cop tried to grab me because I was "talking too loud" on my phone, I'd probably get a little irate too.

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Originally Posted by TypeH

Hmm I wonder if they train police people to deal with crazy pregos....

psyon · 09-28-04, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by question

If a cop tried to grab me because I was "talking too loud" on my phone, I'd probably get a little irate too.

which would accomplish what?

Hey Bubu · 09-28-04, 10:39 AM

Without knowing all the facts....

Did the cop do the right thing as far as trying to calm her down? People can get pretty agitated on the phone, so he might have just wanted her to settle down a little bit, she was out the public. However I do fully agree that he shouldn't have put her on her stomach.

psyon · 09-28-04, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by question

Her resistance is irrelevant. The officer should know that you don't put pregnant women on their stomachs. PERIOD. She wasn't being detained until the officer grabbed her. Until he tried to grab her and she resisted, she'd done nothing wrong. Last I checked, there wasn't a law saying someone can't yell profanities. Secondly, the officer should have more tact in handling such a situation. If my wife, or girlfriend were treated in such a manner, I'd have that officer strung up. That's complete and total disregard for the woman, and the unborn child in her womb.

yeah yeah...the woman has no fault in the matter...is basically what your saying

did you not read what I said? I don't condone the cops actions!

just pointing out the fact that had she complied with the cops...she wouldn't have ended up face down

the woman is partly accountable for what happened...if you can't admit that your denying reality...

apperently her resistance was relevent

wether you see it or not

now I probably have to state this again

I DON'T CONDONE THE OFFICER'S ACTIONS

psyon · 09-28-04, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by question

If my wife, or girlfriend were treated in such a manner, I'd have that officer strung up. That's complete and total disregard for the woman, and the unborn child in her womb.

I would too...but I wouldn't be able to stop myself from asking my wife...why didn't you just talk softer??

petty thing to get arrested over

yes disregard for the woman and her child...

not that it equals out but what about the womans disrespect towards the poeple around her who probably didn't want to hear her yell profanities...not to mention her disrespect for the cops

I don't agree with either of them...just realize they were both at fault

09-28-04, 09:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
question Foolish Bastard Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Downtown Posts: 5,321	Loud cell phone call leads to arrest of pregnant woman WHEATON, Maryland (AP) -- A pregnant woman said she was handcuffed by transit police and forced to lie on her stomach during an arrest that began with her talking too loudly on her cell phone. Sakinah Aaron, 23, said she feared her unborn baby would be harmed when the officer forced her to the ground and put his knee in her back at a bus stop earlier this month. A doctor later said her 5-month-old fetus was not harmed. "I'm thinking between the ground and his knee, my water is going to break and I'm going to have a miscarriage or something," she said of the September 9 incident. Deputy Chief Timothy Gronau said Monday that Officer George Saoutis followed police procedure after Aaron refused to stop cursing loudly during a cell phone conversation and became abusive and uncooperative. Aaron said the officer approached her as she walked to catch a bus, telling her to keep her voice down. She twice tried to break away, but he caught her arm, then placed her face down, handcuffed her, and charged her with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Aaron was scheduled to appear in court on October 21. taken from: > CNN < __________________ True, without falsehood, certain and most true, that which is above is the same as that which is below, and that which is below is the same as that which is above, for the performance of miracles of the One Thing. And as all things are from the One, by the meditation of One, so all things have their birth from this One Thing by adaptation.

09-28-04, 10:18 AM	#4 (permalink)
Hey Bubu Funky Spunk Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: take a left at the cow Posts: 17,124	Hmm I wonder if they train police people to deal with crazy pregos.... __________________ "We're so engaged in doing things to achieve purposes of outer value that we forget that the inner value, the rapture that is associated with being alive, is what it's all about." --Joseph Campbell,

09-28-04, 10:39 AM	#9 (permalink)
Hey Bubu Funky Spunk Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: take a left at the cow Posts: 17,124	Without knowing all the facts.... Did the cop do the right thing as far as trying to calm her down? People can get pretty agitated on the phone, so he might have just wanted her to settle down a little bit, she was out the public. However I do fully agree that he shouldn't have put her on her stomach. __________________ "We're so engaged in doing things to achieve purposes of outer value that we forget that the inner value, the rapture that is associated with being alive, is what it's all about." --Joseph Campbell,

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psyon Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: anywhere but here Posts: 518	thats what usually happens when you resist arrest

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psyon Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: anywhere but here Posts: 518	no I don't really agree with the officers actions...but to me it seems the woman put her own baby in danger by not cooperating with the cops if she had done like the police asked...situation could have been avoided alltogether...no?