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jeffspock · 10-26-04, 01:35 AM

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Violent crime in the United States dropped 3 percent last year, continuing the downward trend in the nation's crime rate over the past decade, the FBI announced Monday.

The drop came despite a 1.7 percent increase in reported murders between 2002 and 2003, according to the FBI's annual Uniform Crime Report. All other categories of violent crime -- manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault -- declined.

Sixty-two percent of last year's murders have been solved to date, compared with 46 percent of all violent crimes, the report said.

Total property crime, which includes nonviolent criminal incidents such as auto theft, burglary and larceny decreased slightly, down 0.2 percen

i can't believe only 62% of murders were solved. That means you have a 38% chance of getting away with it.

10-26-04, 01:36 AM

solved doesn't mean convicted necessarily.... which means your odds could be even better.... eeek

Alexis Gold · 10-26-04, 01:37 AM

it doesn't count unreported crimes.

10-26-04, 10:41 AM

38% is pretty close to half

question · 10-26-04, 10:46 AM

How do you propose they calculate crime that wasn't reported?

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Originally Posted by KittyBtm

it doesn't count unreported crimes.

10-26-04, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by KittyBtm

it doesn't count unreported crimes.

Its rare for a murder to go unreported.

DataBass · 10-26-04, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HoCoast

38% is pretty close to half

but not quite.....

10-26-04, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DataBass

but not quite.....

QUIET YOU!!!

it's only 12 off

Menthol Chicken · 10-26-04, 11:00 AM

Well if you kill someone that you dont know you have a lot better chance of getting away with it.

10-26-04, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by E-brake

People disapear every day, a lot of them are never even found to become murder cases, if you combined the missing person reports with the crime stats you would prob find that you are more likely to get away with it then not.

Look at the mob guys, Joey Amato of the Columbo family killed over 45 people and documented every detail of it in his personal jurnal/diary. He was never convicted of a single murder and would have never been found out, until he died of a heart attack and it turned up in his personal belongings.

Surely the overwhelming majority of unreported murders are missing persons cases (the remeinder are murders that were not detected)

The fewer connections between slayer and slain the fewer reasons an investigation could ever focus on the killer. Kill a family member, friend or business partner... you're gonna get caught... maybe not convicted... but - follow the money or lust and you'll find the bad guy.

10-26-04, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Menthol Chicken

Well if you kill someone that you dont know you have a lot better chance of getting away with it.

As the connection between the dead guy and the killer is stretched - the less likely the killing will occur as well.

Exceptions.... the nut case and the contract killer

reddaisy6 · 10-26-04, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by xiannaix

As the connection between the dead guy and the killer is stretched - the less likely the killing will occur as well.

Ummmmmm.........serial killers?

Don't fight me on this one.

You won't win.

Promise.

10-26-04, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by reddaisy6

Ummmmmm.........serial killers?

Don't fight me on this one.

You won't win.

Promise.

the killing still occurs...but the chances of the individual being caught changes...is what I believe xianniax meant

10-26-04, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by reddaisy6

Ummmmmm.........serial killers?

Don't fight me on this one.

You won't win.

Promise.

not sure how you are disagreeing with what I said or how I'd be fighting you - however - I'm curious what motivated the comment....

anyway - serial killers will fall under the "nut case" exception I pointed out.

and for clarification of the original comment - unless one is a nut case or contract killer - a person has very little reason to go murder some one with whom that person has no contact.... another way, sane people who aren't paid to kill strangers... tend not to kill strangers.

so now - wanna fight

johnny861 · 10-26-04, 11:31 PM

It's always interesting to put it in perspective:

United States: (2002-2003)
population: 290,809,777
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter cases: 16,503

South Africa: (2002-2003)
population: 44 800 000 (est)
Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter cases: 21 553

Sources:
http://www.statssa.gov.za/

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03cius.htm

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10-26-04, 01:36 AM	#2 (permalink)
xiannaix Guest Posts: n/a	solved doesn't mean convicted necessarily.... which means your odds could be even better.... eeek

10-26-04, 10:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
HoCoast Guest Posts: n/a	38% is pretty close to half

10-26-04, 11:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
Menthol Chicken Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: San Marcos, TX Posts: 98	Well if you kill someone that you dont know you have a lot better chance of getting away with it.