Bin Laden airs new tape

[Dionysos]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...bin_laden_tape

CAIRO, Egypt - The Arab television station Al-Jazeera aired a video of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) on Friday directly admitting for the first time that he carried out the Sept. 11 attacks and promising to outline "the best way to avoid another Manhattan."




It was the first footage of the al-Qaida leader to surface in more than a year. The video showed bin Laden in traditional white robes, a turban and a cloak reading from papers and standing in front of a plain, brown cloth background.



"We decided to destroy towers in America," bin Laden said.



He said the attack was carried out because "we are a free people ... and we want to regain the freedom of our nation."



He also accused President Bush (news - web sites) of "misleading" the American people three years since the 2001 suicide airline hijackings that hit the World Trade Center towers and the Pentagon (news - web sites).

[GLopez]

been watching the newbreak here at work.

[Xodiac]

I saw the story on Reuters, but a few things about it strikes me as odd.

1.I couldn't find a transcript of the entire translated message so that I could interpret it for myself.

2.They pointed out history notes for the idiotic, for some reason feeling the need to remind people that John Kerry was the democratic canidate for president, but they don't try to give any insight into the history of american involvement in Palestine and Lebenon to which Bin Laden refers as the cause of the September 11 attacks, and which many of the readers may not be familiar with.

edit: link http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._laden_tape_15

[Element4040]

What's the deal with us only getting part of the transcript in the US?

I mean, how long does it take to translate, shiite.

[JJCHIANESE]

Originally Posted by Xodiac

I saw the story on Reuters, but a few things about it strikes me as odd.

1.I couldn't find a transcript of the entire translated message so that I could interpret it for myself.

2.They pointed out history notes for the idiotic, for some reason feeling the need to remind people that John Kerry was the democratic canidate for president, but they don't try to give any insight into the history of american involvement in Palestine and Lebenon to which Bin Laden refers as the cause of the September 11 attacks, and which many of the readers may not be familiar with.

edit: link http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor..._laden_tape_15

The extent of US involvement in Palestine and Lebanon (as far as their concerned) is that 9 times out of 10 it's been a republican president directing military action against their countries over the past 50 years.....................

[JJCHIANESE]

Originally Posted by Element4040

What's the deal with us only getting part of the transcript in the US?

I mean, how long does it take to translate, shiite.

It's probably anti-American Muslim rhetoric that the US Government doesn't want you to read............

...........if you went overseas to a Muslim nation and read the list of grievances and issues they have with the US it's almost enough to draw anti-American sentiment, and individuals who are unable to read into the bullshit might actually make them sympathetic to "the enemy," which is the last thing the present administration needs.

Have you tried getting transcripts from DPD or the US Marshal Service on the Kennedy assasination??? It's the same premise, the most sensitive information will always be controlled by the federal government........you read what they want you to read.

[sepania]

This excerpt really, REALLY gets my heart rate rising:

Bin Laden also said the Bush administration was like repressive Arab regimes "in that half of them are ruled by the military and the other half are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents."

He said the resemblance became clear when Bush's father was president and visited Arab countries.

"He wound up being impressed by the royal and military regimes and envied them for staying decades in their positions and embezzling the nation's money with no supervision," bin Laden said.

"He passed on tyranny and oppression to his son, and they called it the Patriot Act, under the pretext of fighting terror. Bush the father did well in placing his sons as governors and did not forget to pass on the expertise in fraud from the leaders of the (Mideast) region to Florida to use it in critical moments."

[ArtificialEric]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/...ape/index.html

CNN) -- The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group's goal is to force America into bankruptcy.

Al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday but released the full transcript of the entire tape on its Web site Monday.

"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.

He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers."

"We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said.

He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."

"All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said.

Al-Jazeera executives said they decided to post the entire speech because rumors were circulating that the network omitted parts that "had direct threats toward specific states, which was totally untrue."

"We chose the most newsworthy parts of the address and aired them. The rest was used in lower thirds in graphics format," said one official.

U.S. intelligence officials Monday confirmed that the transcript made public Monday by Al-Jazeera was a complete one.

As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States.

"Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.

The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department.

"It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced.

"And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy."

As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.

"So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said.

U.S. government officials said Friday that the tape appeared to be authentic and recently made. It was the first videotaped message from the al Qaeda leader in nearly three years.

[Element4040]

Thanks Eric!

[Playful Kimmy]

wasn't there mention to another attack? i am confused.

[knucklehead]

that's funny... he sure doesn't speak like some deranged lunatic in a cave hell bent on destroying all of us because we live free. is it possible that, however terrible the course of action they took, they may have had deeper reasons than just being madmen who don't like the fact that we can wear blue jeans when we want to?

[Vosh]

Originally Posted by knucklehead

that's funny... he sure doesn't speak like some deranged lunatic in a cave hell bent on destroying all of us because we live free. is it possible that, however terrible the course of action they took, they may have had deeper reasons than just being madmen who don't like the fact that we can wear blue jeans when we want to?

Hey, it was really nice knowing you and all. When the goverment murders you, would you like me to say anything to your family about it, or will we leave it as just some unfortuante incident? Oh, and by the way, way to go on speaking out... a shame what the goverment will do to you, really is...

[knucklehead]

Originally Posted by Vosh

Hey, it was really nice knowing you and all. When the goverment murders you, would you like me to say anything to your family about it, or will we leave it as just some unfortuante incident? Oh, and by the way, way to go on speaking out... a shame what the goverment will do to you, really is...

don't be so scared, kid.

[Element4040]

Originally Posted by knucklehead

that's funny... he sure doesn't speak like some deranged lunatic in a cave hell bent on destroying all of us because we live free. is it possible that, however terrible the course of action they took, they may have had deeper reasons than just being madmen who don't like the fact that we can wear blue jeans when we want to?

Nah dude, it is that simple, they hate your Freedom.

[knucklehead]

Originally Posted by Element4040

Nah dude, it is that simple, they hate your Freedom.

and they hate big macs!