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question · 11-02-04, 01:36 PM

And it takes a self-righteous person to point it out.

Welcome to the club!

And if believing in the principles that this country was founded on as well as debating the merits therein, is self-righteous, then so be it.

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Originally Posted by Vosh

this thread is now so fool of self-rightesous bullshit that it makes me want to puke...

however, thats about right for this forum and people of the same mindset

Ryan · 11-02-04, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Vosh

this thread is now so fool of self-rightesous bullshit that it makes me want to puke...

however, thats about right for this forum and people of the same mindset

Wow. Who's self righteous? The people arguing the importance of voting? That's great.

Inigo Montoya · 11-02-04, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by question

Okay John. You can be a defeatist all you want, but you can't convince me that what I do means nothing. Thena gain, I understand that in order for the system to work, you have to work the system.

You'd rather just give up and pretend that you don't have any power because it's easier than actually taking part and being involved.

If you don't vote, then you don't have any say in anything that goes on in the country. So you voting your rights away. People with attitudes like yourselves are the reason that things are the way they are now. It's easier to give up and admit defeat than it is to put forth the effort.

At least when things do change, I know that I will have taken an active role in that change and I did my part to see it through.

Scott, I dont believe your voting and your views means nothing.....I think people just overrate there actual "involvement."

And its not people that dont vote that have made things the way they are.....its the people in charge....the elite few.... you could go back decades, and take all the none voters and swing them in either direction, and OUR govt would have still fucked shit up. korea, vietnam, middle east, terrorism, dependance on oil and other resources. If our population truly had an impact, do you think those situations would have been the same?

What exactly are you going to be involved with after you vote in these elections?

And I havent admitted to defeat in a battle Im not even in......

question · 11-02-04, 01:40 PM

*tinfoil hat*

The more and more I read stuff like this, the more and more it gets my gears going on proving all you nay-sayers wrong and running for local office.

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Originally Posted by John Bradley

Scott, I dont believe your voting and your views means nothing.....I think people just overrate there actual "involvement."

And its not people that dont vote that have made things the way they are.....its the people in charge....the elite few.... you could go back decades, and take all the none voters and swing them in either direction, and OUR govt would have still fucked shit up. korea, vietnam, middle east, terrorism, dependance on oil and other resources. If our population truly had an impact, do you think those situations would have been the same?

What exactly are you going to be involved with after you vote in these elections?

And I havent admitted to defeat in a battle Im not even in......

Inigo Montoya · 11-02-04, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan

OK, whatever. There is no sense in trying to argue with this logic.

why? If I am being that ill-logical it should be theoretically easy to argue.

Ryan · 11-02-04, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by John Bradley

why? If I am being that ill-logical it should be theoretically easy to argue.

It would be too easy. And quite frankly, I have no interest in arguing with someone who has no interest. It's boring, if nothing else.

Inigo Montoya · 11-02-04, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by question

*tinfoil hat*

The more and more I read stuff like this, the more and more it gets my gears going on proving all you nay-sayers wrong and running for local office.

im just sparking a different side of the conversation. But if you cant answer my questions than thats cool....you'll fit right in with politics.

**puts on another layer of foil**

Inigo Montoya · 11-02-04, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan

It would be too easy. And quite frankly, I have no interest in arguing with someone who has no interest. It's boring, if nothing else.

Rayn, how exactly are you "informed" with this years elections and politics in general?

We shall keep it simple and tone down this conversation.

question · 11-02-04, 01:43 PM

Sorry, I don't debate politics with someone that bolsters their argument with conspiracy theories and aristocracy.

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Originally Posted by John Bradley

im just sparking a different side of the conversation. But if you cant answer my questions than thats cool....you'll fit right in with politics.

**puts on another layer of foil**

11-02-04, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by E-brake

I voted two weeks ago.

Same here. Paid off one of my tickets and voted.

It was easy

VOTE OR DIE!

Vosh · 11-02-04, 01:45 PM

Question - I never said I wasn't. I find most people with a political opinion to be arrogant fools. Myself included, the difference between me and people such as yourself and Ryan is you two go around telling people like me that I'm "without logic" or a fool or "on his own little world" and etc. You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. People like you think people like me are apathetic, misinformed, complacent, and unactive. You're making assumptions about me based on the fact that I may not want to vote.

Oh, well. Whatever.

question · 11-02-04, 01:46 PM

Actions speak louder than words. If you're not any of the things we accuse you of, prove us wrong. But until you do so, that will be our "self-righteous" opinions.

And because Democracy is such a self-righteous thing.

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Originally Posted by Vosh

Question - I never said I wasn't. I find most people with a political opinion to be arrogant fools. Myself included, the difference between me and people such as yourself and Ryan is you two go around telling people like me that I'm "without logic" or a fool or "on his own little world" and etc. You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. People like you think people like me are apathetic, misinformed, complacent, and unactive. You're making assumptions about me based on the fact that I may not want to vote.

Oh, well. Whatever.

Inigo Montoya · 11-02-04, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by question

Sorry, I don't debate politics with someone that bolsters their argument with conspiracy theories and aristocracy.

What is your political science education consist of, Scott? I bet i have alot more than you. Therefore you not wanting to discuss it with me, faulters your points a little. Conspiracy and aristocracy is a fundametal part of politics whether you like it or not....ask Mr. Rove.

Vosh · 11-02-04, 01:50 PM

I protest. I attend organization meetings. I discuss (to a limited extent) about the topics. I pay money to make DVDs, pamphlets and flyers, then pass them out informing people about different topics.

Did you know any of that? No. You just assumed since I won't vote, I'm apathatic, misinformed, complacent, and unactive.

It appears you are misinformed. I will go so far as to say it's people like you that make people like me become more less active, more apathatic, and more complacent. I find people like you to be the ones leading to misinformation.

See, assumptions are bullshit.

Inigo Montoya · 11-02-04, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by question

Actions speak louder than words. If you're not any of the things we accuse you of, prove us wrong. But until you do so, that will be our "self-righteous" opinions.

And because Democracy is such a self-righteous thing.

you havent proved anything about how you are informed...where you get your information...etc. All you have is your media induced OPINION, like the rest of us....

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11-02-04, 01:45 PM	#41 (permalink)
Vosh Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 703	Question - I never said I wasn't. I find most people with a political opinion to be arrogant fools. Myself included, the difference between me and people such as yourself and Ryan is you two go around telling people like me that I'm "without logic" or a fool or "on his own little world" and etc. You believe what you want and I'll believe what I want. People like you think people like me are apathetic, misinformed, complacent, and unactive. You're making assumptions about me based on the fact that I may not want to vote. Oh, well. Whatever.

11-02-04, 01:50 PM	#44 (permalink)
Vosh Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 703	I protest. I attend organization meetings. I discuss (to a limited extent) about the topics. I pay money to make DVDs, pamphlets and flyers, then pass them out informing people about different topics. Did you know any of that? No. You just assumed since I won't vote, I'm apathatic, misinformed, complacent, and unactive. It appears you are misinformed. I will go so far as to say it's people like you that make people like me become more less active, more apathatic, and more complacent. I find people like you to be the ones leading to misinformation. See, assumptions are bullshit.