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Osan · 11-27-04, 04:11 PM

has anyone seen this movie?
I watched it the other day with a dropped jaw.

What are your thoughts on it?

Is it's credibility questionable?

Big Andy · 11-27-04, 04:21 PM

Haven't even heard of it...

What does have to say in a nutshell? Is it like "Farenhype," trying to discredit Moore? or is it just a documentary of how the whole thing was handled?

Osan · 11-27-04, 06:35 PM

actually it showed footage and photographs that were immediately removed fromt he the air from news reports within hours of the attacks. One photograph shows the pentagon fully intact after the "plane" hit it, and they question how a boeing 777 could have crashed into the pentagon and made such a small hole. They show the plane crashes from several different angles in high resolution pointing out explosions that occured BEFORE the planes actually hit. They have a tv interview of NYC firefighters saying they heard explosions inside the towers when they were evacuating people and one gentleman said the plane was flying so low, that he could see it wasn't a commerical airline and there were no windows on the planes. These are all part of cnn and FOX news reports that were only aired once and then never shown again. They asked what happened to the supposed plane since we never saw any pictures of it. They have a video interview from PBS of the man who leased the twin towers and admitted that after the 2nd plane hit they decided to "pull it" or ignite charges that caused the towers to fall. Which then poses the question why the towers were rigged with charges in the first place. There was footage of these Frenchmen filming a documentary about NYC firefighters the day of 9/11 and they captured first plane crashing which apparently "no news channel had footage of the first crash" there is also video of president bush saying that he watched the first crash on tv, but as mentioned before, there is no news footage of the first plane.

There is alot more, it pretty much presents facts and asks the viewer to decide. They don't bash the political left or the right. They just poke fingers at National Security and pose the idea that maybe the US government had alot more to do with 9/11 then we think.

alvin · 11-27-04, 06:48 PM

"This movie is a total fabrication of the "truth"..."

"How can u believe this tin foil conspiracy crap..."

" How DARE you question the "official" version of the "facts"; they are100% NON-DISPUTABLE..."

obey propaganda

11-27-04, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin

"This movie is a total fabrication of the "truth"..."

"How can u believe this tin foil conspiracy crap..."

" How DARE you question the "official" version of the "facts"; they are100% NON-DISPUTABLE..."

obey propaganda

A President can't keep a hummer from an intern in the oval office a secret but you're willing to accept that the events of 9/11 happened in some way other than reported and those thiusands kept their yaps shut?

11-27-04, 08:41 PM

So I heard that the concentration camps of Nazi Germany never really existed.

Osan · 11-27-04, 09:34 PM

the purpose of the film wasn't to say that 911 never happened. the purpose of the film was to point out the holes in the official report of what happened and present visual evidence. I did a little bit more research after I saw the film. Apparently the guy who made it originally set out to discredit a french conspiracy theory website entitled Hunt the Boeing. Then he started to question it himself.

Im kind of half and half on this film. There are parts in it that are just dumb and a very big s-t-r-e-t-c-h(the idea of a bomb being strapped to the planes). But when it comes to the pentagon and the detailed examination of the actual crashes and news reports themselves, you can't help but wonder. I watched it expecting another Michael Moore bullshit comedy film, but it was anything but that. There was the occasional use of president Bush's image (even the "Fool me once" audio bit from F-9/11). But it wasn't in a ridiculing manner.

david austin · 11-28-04, 04:03 AM

Clicky

This is a widely discussed swf file about the subject of the pentagon crash

A very well made interpretation/opinion about the facts at hand too

The Sheik · 11-28-04, 03:44 PM

where can one obtain a copy of this film?

kezarmyaj · 11-28-04, 04:02 PM

OMG DO YOU THINK 'THEY' ARE WATCHING US?!?!

alvin · 11-28-04, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xiannaix

A President can't keep a hummer from an intern in the oval office a secret but you're willing to accept that the events of 9/11 happened in some way other than reported and those thiusands kept their yaps shut?

The media can(and DO on a regular basis) SLANT things anyway they want to. Back in the 30's there was a broadcast(radio...which was the main source of information at the time) of "War of the Worlds" and people TRULY BELIEVED that America was being invaded by Martians(that darn media). It takes a very small minority to BELIEVE a lie. And remember there is truth in each and every LIE!!!

I remember last year during one of Dallas' "major" snowstorms the weather reports kept telling everyone to "WHATEVER YOU DO...stay inside...it is too dangerous to drive!!!" I'm like dood, I was just went to go get a pizza and it wasn't bad at all. It's just the story THEY want you to believe...

Osan · 11-28-04, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sheik

where can one obtain a copy of this film?

I'll burn you a copy if ya want. Come out to RX tonight

11-29-04, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin

Back in the 30's there was a broadcast(radio...which was the main source of information at the time) of "War of the Worlds" and people TRULY BELIEVED that America was being invaded by Martians(that darn media).

Did you intend to draw the obvious comparison/parallels between the film in question here and Welles' broadcast?

Quote:

Originally Posted by alvin

It takes a very small minority to BELIEVE a lie. And remember there is truth in each and every LIE!!!

I can't believe I read that cliched bs.

question · 11-29-04, 10:16 AM

Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ! Will you people give this a rest? The jet was full of fuel, it was going over 500mph. The impact caused the plane to explode, the crash compressed the jet, in turn compressing the fuel. What happens when you compress flammable things? The reaction of the explosion is greater. The people vaporized, then the aluminum did. Quit letting these movies raise questions and go study some damn phsyics. It will answer your questions.

The damage to the Pentagon was a minimum because of the way it was designed. It was REINFORCED CONCRETE. STEEL REINFORCED CONCRETE! It has 5 concentric rings. The concrete walls are SEVERAL FEET THICK. What more do you want?

Unless you're just wanting to be a bunch of gullible fools.

matt · 11-29-04, 10:18 AM

nu-uh question. if that is your real name...

:alien:

11-27-04, 04:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
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11-27-04, 04:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Big Andy DDM Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Garland Tx Posts: 1,725	Haven't even heard of it... What does have to say in a nutshell? Is it like "Farenhype," trying to discredit Moore? or is it just a documentary of how the whole thing was handled? __________________ "trying to get a feel for the internet with draves is kind of like trying to get a feel for a person by shoving your fist up their ass." - Adam D "No worries little bro it's just my utrine lining." - FreeForAll "Do not mock me or the Rave Gods (Oakenfold and the CEO of the company that makes NUK pacifiers) will come down from the heavens and smite you!! By smite I mean all you hear is train wrecks and your jaw never feels better by Monday!!!!" --HarveyTheRabbit

11-27-04, 06:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
Osan Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Taipei(China, not Japan) Posts: 1,051	actually it showed footage and photographs that were immediately removed fromt he the air from news reports within hours of the attacks. One photograph shows the pentagon fully intact after the "plane" hit it, and they question how a boeing 777 could have crashed into the pentagon and made such a small hole. They show the plane crashes from several different angles in high resolution pointing out explosions that occured BEFORE the planes actually hit. They have a tv interview of NYC firefighters saying they heard explosions inside the towers when they were evacuating people and one gentleman said the plane was flying so low, that he could see it wasn't a commerical airline and there were no windows on the planes. These are all part of cnn and FOX news reports that were only aired once and then never shown again. They asked what happened to the supposed plane since we never saw any pictures of it. They have a video interview from PBS of the man who leased the twin towers and admitted that after the 2nd plane hit they decided to "pull it" or ignite charges that caused the towers to fall. Which then poses the question why the towers were rigged with charges in the first place. There was footage of these Frenchmen filming a documentary about NYC firefighters the day of 9/11 and they captured first plane crashing which apparently "no news channel had footage of the first crash" there is also video of president bush saying that he watched the first crash on tv, but as mentioned before, there is no news footage of the first plane. There is alot more, it pretty much presents facts and asks the viewer to decide. They don't bash the political left or the right. They just poke fingers at National Security and pose the idea that maybe the US government had alot more to do with 9/11 then we think. __________________ Nosa Recordings Sona Facebook, a place for sheep.

11-27-04, 09:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Osan Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Taipei(China, not Japan) Posts: 1,051	the purpose of the film wasn't to say that 911 never happened. the purpose of the film was to point out the holes in the official report of what happened and present visual evidence. I did a little bit more research after I saw the film. Apparently the guy who made it originally set out to discredit a french conspiracy theory website entitled Hunt the Boeing. Then he started to question it himself. Im kind of half and half on this film. There are parts in it that are just dumb and a very big s-t-r-e-t-c-h(the idea of a bomb being strapped to the planes). But when it comes to the pentagon and the detailed examination of the actual crashes and news reports themselves, you can't help but wonder. I watched it expecting another Michael Moore bullshit comedy film, but it was anything but that. There was the occasional use of president Bush's image (even the "Fool me once" audio bit from F-9/11). But it wasn't in a ridiculing manner. __________________ Nosa Recordings Sona Facebook, a place for sheep.

11-28-04, 04:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
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11-27-04, 06:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
alvin Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: outside the status quo Posts: 3,032	"This movie is a total fabrication of the "truth"..." "How can u believe this tin foil conspiracy crap..." " How DARE you question the "official" version of the "facts"; they are100% NON-DISPUTABLE..." obey propaganda

11-27-04, 08:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
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The Sheik Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Carrollton Tx Posts: 174	where can one obtain a copy of this film?

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11-29-04, 10:16 AM	#14 (permalink)
question Foolish Bastard Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Downtown Posts: 5,321	Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ! Will you people give this a rest? The jet was full of fuel, it was going over 500mph. The impact caused the plane to explode, the crash compressed the jet, in turn compressing the fuel. What happens when you compress flammable things? The reaction of the explosion is greater. The people vaporized, then the aluminum did. Quit letting these movies raise questions and go study some damn phsyics. It will answer your questions. The damage to the Pentagon was a minimum because of the way it was designed. It was REINFORCED CONCRETE. STEEL REINFORCED CONCRETE! It has 5 concentric rings. The concrete walls are SEVERAL FEET THICK. What more do you want? Unless you're just wanting to be a bunch of gullible fools. __________________ True, without falsehood, certain and most true, that which is above is the same as that which is below, and that which is below is the same as that which is above, for the performance of miracles of the One Thing. And as all things are from the One, by the meditation of One, so all things have their birth from this One Thing by adaptation.

11-29-04, 10:18 AM	#15 (permalink)
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