My conversation last night with a Texas voter - Dallas Dance Music - Dallas nightlife, music, tickets, and more

Ryan · 12-22-04, 08:10 AM

I was at a Christmas party and met a seemingly well-educated, very friendly 57-year-old man. We started talking real estate and then the conversation quickly slipped into politics.

Guy: "This war in Iraq is ridiculous. I lived through Vietnam and I can say that I think what Bush has gotten us into will be worse than that in the longrun. I think everything that man touches turns to shit."

Me: "Uh huh..."

Guy (with a hint of a gay lisp): "And this gay marriage thing - where the hell does the guy get off trying to abuse the Constitution? Has he forgotten his oath of office?"

Me: "Could be..."

Guy: "And his spending policies? Let me tell you, I have been around a long time and I don't believe we have ever had a more incompetent president in this category."

Me: "I don't disagree..."

Guy: "I mean...I voted for the guy, but c'mon!!!"

Me: "Wait, you hate everything the man has done and everything he stands for, but you voted for him anyway????"

Guy: "Well, I wasn't going to vote for some New England liberal."

Me: "Pardon me for saying this, but you sound much like a liberal yourself."

Guy: "Not in Texas, buddy."

Me:

Ash · 12-22-04, 08:15 AM

My parents live in a rural southeast Texas town and they had a similar conversation with one of the local yokels. He said in his best southern accent, "Boy, I sure am glad Bush got re-elected!" My parents replied, "Oh really? Why's that?" The man said, "Because he stands up for the religious!". My parents, "OMG! WTF dude?".

Ryan · 12-22-04, 08:22 AM

It deserves to be said that this party was in San Antonio. Had this been Austin, he would probably have voted for Kerry because all of his neighbors and friends would have had Kerry signs in the front yard. I think voting has become more cultural than logical.

DJPePe · 12-22-04, 09:29 AM

OMG that is some of the most hilarious shit I ever read! I can't believe how illogical that idiot is.

Ryan · 12-22-04, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DJPePe

OMG that is some of the most hilarious shit I ever read! I can't believe how illogical that idiot is.

It was quite strange, especially considering that the guy was quite affluent, well-educated, and runs a successful real estate company. It just goes to show that many Americans pay no attention to politics.

zerojunkie · 12-22-04, 10:21 AM

HAHA, Further proof Kerry was "The wrong candidate, at the wrong time." Maybe if the Dems could've mustered a better politician then Kerry they would've won.

Satchel · 12-22-04, 10:54 AM

seems about right to me

DJPePe · 12-22-04, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryan

It was quite strange, especially considering that the guy was quite affluent, well-educated, and runs a successful real estate company. It just goes to show that many Americans pay no attention to politics.

And the fact that he lives in Texas speaks volumes Ryan

johnny861 · 12-22-04, 03:11 PM

I still think Clark would have had a chance, given some of the trends in voting.

zerojunkie · 12-22-04, 03:42 PM

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I still think Clark would have had a chance, given some of the trends in voting.

Hell yeah, I would've voted for Clark

Adam D · 12-22-04, 09:59 PM

I'm not surprised.

I try to avoid talking politics at work (for the sake of my job...I work at a very pro-Bush company), but nearly everybody I talked to or heard talking about the election disagreed with Bush on the war, his spending policies, his tax policies, etc. but supported him/voted for him because he stands for religion, and to a lesser extent because they didn't know anything about Kerry.

But to be fair I don't think that's really all that different from people voting for Kerry just because he was the guy with the best chance of blocking reelection for Bush.

Ryan · 12-23-04, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam D

But to be fair I don't think that's really all that different from people voting for Kerry just because he was the guy with the best chance of blocking reelection for Bush.

It's WAY different. People who took that stance generally acknowledged that he was not their ideal candidate but that he shared many more of their views than Bush. This guy was basically saying that Bush represented everything he hated and that he was the worst president of his lifetime, but he voted for him because he's in Texas.

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Ryan Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,783	My conversation last night with a Texas voter I was at a Christmas party and met a seemingly well-educated, very friendly 57-year-old man. We started talking real estate and then the conversation quickly slipped into politics. Guy: "This war in Iraq is ridiculous. I lived through Vietnam and I can say that I think what Bush has gotten us into will be worse than that in the longrun. I think everything that man touches turns to shit." Me: "Uh huh..." Guy (with a hint of a gay lisp): "And this gay marriage thing - where the hell does the guy get off trying to abuse the Constitution? Has he forgotten his oath of office?" Me: "Could be..." Guy: "And his spending policies? Let me tell you, I have been around a long time and I don't believe we have ever had a more incompetent president in this category." Me: "I don't disagree..." Guy: "I mean...I voted for the guy, but c'mon!!!" Me: "Wait, you hate everything the man has done and everything he stands for, but you voted for him anyway????" Guy: "Well, I wasn't going to vote for some New England liberal." Me: "Pardon me for saying this, but you sound much like a liberal yourself." Guy: "Not in Texas, buddy." Me: Last edited by Ryan; 12-22-04 at 08:20 AM.

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Ash Was up above it. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: L.A., New York, Chicago, Boston, Seattle, Forney Posts: 27,615	My parents live in a rural southeast Texas town and they had a similar conversation with one of the local yokels. He said in his best southern accent, "Boy, I sure am glad Bush got re-elected!" My parents replied, "Oh really? Why's that?" The man said, "Because he stands up for the religious!". My parents, "OMG! WTF dude?". __________________ My milk snake brings all the girls to the yard.

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Adam D Reverse Apache Master Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Law School Posts: 8,054	I'm not surprised. I try to avoid talking politics at work (for the sake of my job...I work at a very pro-Bush company), but nearly everybody I talked to or heard talking about the election disagreed with Bush on the war, his spending policies, his tax policies, etc. but supported him/voted for him because he stands for religion, and to a lesser extent because they didn't know anything about Kerry. But to be fair I don't think that's really all that different from people voting for Kerry just because he was the guy with the best chance of blocking reelection for Bush. __________________ This is my signature.

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12-22-04, 08:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ryan Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3,783	It deserves to be said that this party was in San Antonio. Had this been Austin, he would probably have voted for Kerry because all of his neighbors and friends would have had Kerry signs in the front yard. I think voting has become more cultural than logical.

12-22-04, 09:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
DJPePe Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Back in DFW /tear Posts: 1,513	OMG that is some of the most hilarious shit I ever read! I can't believe how illogical that idiot is.

12-22-04, 10:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
zerojunkie Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: dallas Posts: 2,914	HAHA, Further proof Kerry was "The wrong candidate, at the wrong time." Maybe if the Dems could've mustered a better politician then Kerry they would've won.

12-22-04, 10:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
Satchel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Plaino Posts: 2,973	seems about right to me