Bush Approval Rating at 44% On Inauguration Day

Originally Posted by Krash

tbf it's one of those statements that is so true that it IS funneh!

okay... maybe it is..... but sure as hell isn't elitist. And I am certainly not above being elitist... hell I am elitist on lots of points..... but that wasn't an example of it.

Elitist is claiming that the American electorate cannot be trusted to pick the better man. Cannot be trusted to have the "correct" opinion on issues.

here's an elitist quote from an elitist of the right, "Populism at its finest is an oxymoron." George F. Will

Originally Posted by Satchel

actually they do pay taxes so that statement is completely ignorant

really.... illustrate how the poor pay income taxes so I can shed my ignorance

[Satchel]

I don't remember you or I using the word income

Originally Posted by Satchel

I don't remember you or I using the word income

I did but editied it out.... I meant income taxes.... Please explain which tax cuts for rich people you meant then? because GW's tax cuts were income tax cuts

[Satchel]

I wasn't the one claiming poor people paid no taxes, you were.

and I was not suggesting cutting their income taxes, that is an assumption you made.

but if you really wanted to know where I stand...


how about not cutting their taxes and using that money to play your war and your faith based funding

I really do not like running up my grandkids debt with that bullshit

Originally Posted by Satchel

I wasn't the one claiming poor people paid no taxes, you were.

Indeed I did..... in response to your comment about the rich getting tax breaks.... the reason the poor didn't get those breaks is because they don't pay the taxes that GW cut.

Originally Posted by Satchel

and I was not suggesting cutting their income taxes, that is an assumption you made.

You spoke of a tax cut given by GW... he cut income taxes... so it was a fair assumption to think you were referring to income taxes.

Originally Posted by Satchel

but if you really wanted to know where I stand...


how about not cutting their taxes and using that money to play your war and your faith based funding

I really do not like running up my grandkids debt with that bullshit

Tax cuts were useful as an economic stimulus.... which helped push forward job growth etc etc etc if you don't like GW then you disbelive that. But, there are many people much more qualified than myself that could explain to you how it works... I'm ok just accepting that puttin gmore dollars in people's pockets means they're more likely to spend more money..... spending more money fuels the economy etc etc

As for the deficit.... I refer people to the ratio of deficit to percentage of GDP... don't get your panties in bunch until that ratio gets substantially higher than it is today. We're not impovrishng your grandkids. (This is not a permission slip to overspend....spending needs to be brought in check..... its a notice that the sky is not falling)

[Satchel]

Of course you refer people to the GDP because it is an attempt to take the focus off of the most fiscally irresponsible goverment we have ever had.


You guys love to talk personal responsibily, so just fucking take the responsibility to admit you don't give a fuck about over spending as long as it is on the things that benefit you.

[werdna]

Originally Posted by Satchel

yeah all that really matters is promoting christianity, invading countries and giving rich folks tax breaks

Yeah. Because it matters that our president has morals, goals, and is a role model for some.

Originally Posted by Satchel

Of course you refer people to the GDP because it is an attempt to take the focus off of the most fiscally irresponsible goverment we have ever had.

Hardly... I refer people like you who run around thinking the world is collapsing around their ears to chill the hell out.

Certainly spending needs to be reined in - no argument. But hyperbolic concern like yours is unnecessary.

Originally Posted by Satchel

You guys love to talk personal responsibily, so just fucking take the responsibility to admit you don't give a fuck about over spending as long as it is on the things that benefit you.

"you guys"? who is that satchel?

I mentioned in this post and the prior that something needed to be done about spending so climb down a little bit won't you?

And.... just out of curiosity... what spending which benefits me that doesn't benefit you are you thinking of?

Originally Posted by werdna

Yeah. Because it matters that our president has morals, goals, and is a role model for some.

You'd prefer a President with no morals that was a poor role model for everyone?

[werdna]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

You'd prefer a President with no morals that was a poor role model for everyone?

i was being sarcastic
Maybe i worded it wrong...
That is the opposite of what i think.



He has morals, goals, and is a good role model.

Originally Posted by werdna

Maybe i worded it wrong...
That is the opposite of what i think.



He has morals, goals, and is a good role model.

lol...... ok then

[Satchel]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

"you guys"? who is that satchel?

I mentioned in this post and the prior that something needed to be done about spending so climb down a little bit won't you?

And.... just out of curiosity... what spending which benefits me that doesn't benefit you are you thinking of?

You guys = imperialistic, moralistic, greedtastic scum

which spending beneifts you?

oh how about me paying your precher to promote fairy tales

[Satchel]

lol

anyone who thinks George Bush has morals obviously has paid no attention

Originally Posted by Satchel

You guys = imperialistic, moralistic, greedtastic scum

which spending beneifts you?

oh how about me paying your precher to promote fairy tales

OK satchel... I tried to engage you in discussion by asking for specifics... you've careened from topic to topic avoiding clarification on anything you've bitched about and you've tossed in insults as well.... you got a lot of complaints about poorly defined issues.

I'll try again.... 1) who's my preacher? 2) what's fairy tales is he promoting and 3) how am I benefitting where you are not from that?