Bush Approval Rating at 44% On Inauguration Day

Originally Posted by Satchel

lol

anyone who thinks George Bush has morals obviously has paid no attention

Please clarify how GW is immoral for us satchel?

[werdna]

Originally Posted by Satchel

oh how about me paying your precher to promote fairy tales

yeah, i dont understand this.

[Satchel]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

OK satchel... I tried to engage you in discussion by asking for specifics... you've careened from topic to topic avoiding clarification on anything you've bitched about and you've tossed in insults as well.... you got a lot of complaints about poorly defined issues.

I'll try again.... 1) who's my preacher? 2) what's fairy tales is he promoting and 3) how am I benefitting where you are not from that?

You didn't try to engage me in discussion, you made a snide comment about what I wrote. I responded in kind. Other than that I'm sorry I don't subscribe to the address every single point with the textbook party argument for that said point style of rave board political discussion.

[Led]

There are a helluva lot of poor people who do not pay income taxes, in fact they some times get back even when they don't put in. Ever heard of EIC?

[willy_jack]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

Please clarify how GW is immoral for us satchel?

He promotes a war that was based on lies. He allowed for the most executions ever in State history. If GW is so moral, then he knows the Bible clearly states that he alone is Judge and Jury. Jesus said turn your cheek to those who strike you, yet GW is the one who struck Iraq. Iraq never attacked us.......

There are countless arguments as to why GW is not the moral Bible Thumping idiot he claims to be.

[willy_jack]

Originally Posted by Led

There are a helluva lot of poor people who do not pay income taxes, in fact they some times get back even when they don't put in. Ever heard of EIC?

Oh the horror........

Originally Posted by Satchel

You didn't try to engage me in discussion, you made a snide comment about what I wrote. I responded in kind. Other than that I'm sorry I don't subscribe to the address every single point with the textbook party argument for that said point style of rave board political discussion.

I didn't start snide... started with the observation that poor people don't pay income taxes... which is true... not snide. I certainly got there eventually though.... your refusal to respond with any substance to your claims was frustrating.....you don't discuss dick satchel.... you drop dumbass comments without any basis and run. I wasn't asking a lot from you - and I got less.

[Satchel]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

I didn't start snide... started with the observation that poor people don't pay income taxes... which is true... not snide. I certainly got there eventually though.... your refusal to respond with any substance to your claims was frustrating.....you don't discuss dick satchel.... you drop dumbass comments without any basis and run. I wasn't asking a lot from you - and I got less.

well then my plan to annoy you moralists is working

Originally Posted by willy_jack

He promotes a war that was based on lies.

One can oppose the war and recognize that the president didn't lie. There's a diference between being wrong on a fact and lying about it. Now, politically speaking I think the adminstration did a piss poor job of bringing the argument for war to the American people.... and they continue to be pretty poor about communication. However, is it immoral to knock over a tyrant like Saddam or is it immoral to let him continue?

Originally Posted by willy_jack

He allowed for the most executions ever in State history.

In Texas? You're saying he's immoral for not subverting the judical process by taking away the sentence handed down by a jury to kill a murderer? So, you'd advocate him usurping judical power and usurping the power of the jury to help out a murderre - then he'd be behaving morally?

Originally Posted by willy_jack

If GW is so moral, then he knows the Bible clearly states that he alone is Judge and Jury. Jesus said turn your cheek to those who strike you, yet GW is the one who struck Iraq. Iraq never attacked us.......

yada yada yada - I thought you DIDN'T want him governing by his faith? Now you do? Which is it? And, Jesus also said,"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's".... he was an orignal advocate of separation of church and state.

Originally Posted by willy_jack

There are countless arguments as to why GW is not the moral Bible Thumping idiot he claims to be.

you've done poorly making any so far w_j

Originally Posted by Satchel

well then my plan to annoy you moralists is working

you say "moralist" like its bad to have them.....

[willy_jack]

I do not pretend to be this big moral idiot, and then turn around and drop bombs, and execute retarded people. So if he really is a dedicated faithful Christian, why doesn't he act like it? Because he drops 15 % in the collection plate as it passes around?????

You can keep your morals if George W. Bush is an example of them.

[willy_jack]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

yada yada yada - I thought you DIDN'T want him governing by his faith? Now you do? Which is it? And, Jesus also said,"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's".... he was an orignal advocate of separation of church and state.

Then why is his biggest job on the table banning gay marriage? He is not following Jesus and his teachings.....

oh the horror.....

Originally Posted by willy_jack

I do not pretend to be this big moral idiot, and then turn around and drop bombs, and execute retarded people.

so you'd advocate not doing anything to topple a brutal dictator.... or is just the manner you think immoral?

you make a claim that Bush executed that guy.... the man in question committed a murder, was tried... jury found him guilty and recommneded death.... you think GW's immoral for not overstepping his role as governor... get real.... pardon's are in most cases a clear subversion of the domcratic process.

Originally Posted by willy_jack

So if he really is a dedicated faithful Christian, why doesn't he act like it? Because he drops 15 % in the collection plate as it passes around?????

You can keep your morals if George W. Bush is an example of them.

Al I'm saying is that making these claims that GW is immoral are pretty weak.... you're attacking his politics and you've attacked him for not behaving like a good cheek turning Christian when wearing his hat as governor.... that's not immoral - that's recognizing his job duties.

Originally Posted by willy_jack

Then why is his biggest job on the table banning gay marriage? He is not following Jesus and his teachings.....

oh the horror.....

wtf...

first, I believe GW's said that he's not going to be pushing that issue in his second term.

second, again... you're asking him to demonstrate his mrality by doing another thing (governing through his religious perspective) that you'd fault him for. That's an artificial set of choices put in place to guarantee fault.

[zerojunkie]

Sure is a lot of unsubstantiated bitching in this thread...