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Hey Bubu · 01-28-05, 04:16 PM

Would a truly combined European Union have enough sway and power to one day topple the US in term of power, both economically and military?

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willy_jack · 01-28-05, 04:18 PM

I really don't think so. I am a little buzzed right now and don't wanna think too hard on it...... I will get back to you before the clock gets punched.

willy_jack · 01-28-05, 04:21 PM

First of all we are rthe richest country in the world, and also the quickest to react.... so if a truly unified Europe threatened us in anyway I think we would move too quick for them to come out on top of any dispute.

As for economically, I think we would move into dispute territory and cause them to crumble before they gained too much power.

But then again I am half drunk so what do I know?

P.S> Thye boss knows,.

nah nah nah boo boo

01-28-05, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeH

Would a truly combined European Union have enough sway and power to one day topple the US in term of power, both economically and military?

GO...

absolutely not

1) their combined economies are not as large as ours

2) military? I don't know where to begin expressing my amusement that the EU could develope a competant military (excepting the brits of course)

Hey Bubu · 01-28-05, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by xiannaix

absolutely not

1) their combined economies are not as large as ours

2) military? I don't know where to begin expressing my amusement that the EU could develope a competant military (excepting the brits of course)

Alright, what about a unified Asia against the US?

edit: Yeah, yea no china or japan...

willy_jack · 01-28-05, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeH

Alright, what about a unified Asia against the US?

military wisde: they pose a threat... chinas a big bitch.....

01-28-05, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TypeH

Alright, what about a unified Asia against the US?

edit: Yeah, yea no china or japan...

in a hypothetical world that permits the impossible.... nope

our economy is too big and our war fighting capabilties too good....

China has no blue water navy - that's crippling

Hey Bubu · 01-28-05, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by willy_jack

military wisde: they pose a threat... chinas a big bitch.....

They have the man power but not the mechanical resources. THANK GOD!!!

Hey Bubu · 01-28-05, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by E-brake

Germany has twice had a stronger military and economy than the states on its own (altho we eventually kicked their asses after they pushed their luck to far). Little worldwide economic downturn and a couple facist leaders will be all it takes for Europe to be in the running with us.

Germany just streched it self too thin.

bfp · 01-28-05, 04:32 PM

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1) their combined economies are not as large as ours

I agree. I've been hearing that whenever each country that is involved in the EU starts valuing their own economies, the euro will start to plummet because their economies really aren't all that great.

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2) military? I don't know where to begin expressing my amusement that the EU could develope a competant military (excepting the brits of course)

I agree here as well. Why would the countries that are involved in the EU want a huge military, if they're incapable of wanting to use it?

It would take a very very long time for the EU to catch up. In conjunction with their economic rise, our economy would then have to decline drastically.

01-28-05, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by E-brake

Germany has twice had a stronger military and economy than the states on its own (altho we eventually kicked their asses after they pushed their luck to far).

and since we've outgrown them in popultion, technology, output etc etc... Germany is an economic powerhouse on par with California.

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Originally Posted by E-brake

Little worldwide economic downturn and a couple facist leaders will be all it takes for Europe to be in the running with us.

I disagree.... the EU is set up to avoid that kind of thing... the fascism you're talking about requires strong nationalism.... the are no people who speak EU

bfp · 01-28-05, 04:36 PM

I pretty much agreed with the CIA analyisis of the EU last week. If their economic policies don't change, they're headed for a disaster.

bfp · 01-28-05, 04:39 PM

[Check it]

I'm sure you could find a more detailed article, but this is the jist of it.

01-28-05, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bfp

I agree. I've been hearing that whenever each country that is involved in the EU starts valuing their own economies, the euro will start to plummet because their economies really aren't all that great.

I agree here as well. Why would the countries that are involved in the EU want a huge military, if they're incapable of wanting to use it?

It would take a very very long time for the EU to catch up. In conjunction with their economic rise, our economy would then have to decline drastically.

careful.... agreeing with me could be interpretted as a plot...nay... conspiracy to subvert the board

MattM · 01-28-05, 04:40 PM

There is no country in the world who can go toe to toe with the US defense. Although, unfortunately as history has shown, it's not always the best 'slugger' who comes out on top.

Economically I'm not sure, the U.S. seems to have a lot of resources.

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01-28-05, 04:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
willy_jack Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: in my head Posts: 3,090	I really don't think so. I am a little buzzed right now and don't wanna think too hard on it...... I will get back to you before the clock gets punched.

01-28-05, 04:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
willy_jack Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: in my head Posts: 3,090	First of all we are rthe richest country in the world, and also the quickest to react.... so if a truly unified Europe threatened us in anyway I think we would move too quick for them to come out on top of any dispute. As for economically, I think we would move into dispute territory and cause them to crumble before they gained too much power. But then again I am half drunk so what do I know? P.S> Thye boss knows,. nah nah nah boo boo

01-28-05, 04:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
bfp Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: McKidney Posts: 4,278	I pretty much agreed with the CIA analyisis of the EU last week. If their economic policies don't change, they're headed for a disaster.

01-28-05, 04:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
bfp Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: McKidney Posts: 4,278	[Check it] I'm sure you could find a more detailed article, but this is the jist of it.

01-28-05, 04:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
MattM Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: 5=6 Posts: 1,926	There is no country in the world who can go toe to toe with the US defense. Although, unfortunately as history has shown, it's not always the best 'slugger' who comes out on top. Economically I'm not sure, the U.S. seems to have a lot of resources.