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Old 03-14-05, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What if...

Time to play some scenarios.

What if China decides to "attack" Taiwan (for the sakes of argument all political and economic attacks have been exausted, military action is next)

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Old 03-14-05, 01:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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how do they attack?

naval landing?

missile attack?

bombing from aircraft?

combination?


we sink any naval vessels crossing the straights with aircraft, subs and ships.

we knock any aircraft out of the air with surface to air missiles and with our fighters.

they threaten to nuke us.... we give them Taiwan
 
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Old 03-14-05, 01:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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they threaten to nuke us.... we give them Taiwan




HAHAHAH

I can see that, "um J/K here's the island."
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Old 03-14-05, 01:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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HAHAHAH

I can see that, "um J/K here's the island."

yeah, but we'll have given them a first hand up-close look at how they'll be unable to handle the US in a purely conventional war.... looming in central asia over territorial claims and oil.
 
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They've got the man power, but outdate machinery so I honestly don't think China would have the gaul to attack if we promote some sort of retaliation. I just see us promoting the status quo.
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They've got the man power, but outdate machinery so I honestly don't think China would have the gaul to attack if we promote some sort of retaliation. I just see us promoting the status quo.

We have a policy that is full of contradictions re: PRC and ROC

We officially agree to the "One China" principal but have pledged to defend Taiwan.

One cannot have it both ways but we try.
 
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I wonder if the One China clause truly included Taiwan, or if it was mainly referring to Hong Kong.

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The biggest "out there" possibility is a joint campaing between N.Korea and China, which would probably never happen. Chances are that China is just going to twist taiwans arm with political and economic sanctions. I honestly don't see force being used on this event.
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yeah, but we'll have given them a first hand up-close look at how they'll be unable to handle the US in a purely conventional war.... looming in central asia over territorial claims and oil.
This is true as long as they are on the attack. We would get our asses handed to us if we tried to invade them.
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This is true as long as they are on the attack. We would get our asses handed to us if we tried to invade them.
One on one yes, weaponery wise, No
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You don't get to compartmentalize war, you either win or lose.
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This is true as long as they are on the attack. We would get our asses handed to us if we tried to invade them.

agreed but.... why would we do that?


thinking about land wars and sicilians...
 
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You don't get to compartmentalize war, you either win or lose.
well you can sort of....

if we simply fought a war of defense for Taiwan and nukes were out of the game... I don't think China could take Taiwan
 
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Do you honestly think China would deploy nukes against Taiwan?
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Do you honestly think China would deploy nukes against Taiwan?
nope - worse - against us

they threaten to level DC, NYC etc

and one Taiwan isn't worth a DC even if we doubt the sincerity of the threat
 
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I wonder if the One China clause truly included Taiwan, or if it was mainly referring to Hong Kong.

Damn the lawyer speak





The biggest "out there" possibility is a joint campaing between N.Korea and China, which would probably never happen. Chances are that China is just going to twist taiwans arm with political and economic sanctions. I honestly don't see force being used on this event.
this reminds me of the simpsons last night:

"tibet used to think they were pretty independent...."
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