Artic Drilling Attached to Budget Bill

[tricky]

Backdoor Politics at its finest.

[IrishRaver]

....ok...??.....any articles or facts to back it up? or are you just saying this out of an assumption/2nd hand

[tricky]

Originally Posted by IrishRaver

....ok...??.....any articles or facts to back it up? or are you just saying this out of an assumption/2nd hand

if you read the news....



The administration has said the drilling offers "the "single greatest prospect" for onshore oil and gas development anywhere in the United States; its passage would represent a major legislative triumph for Bush.

To make that happen, Senate Republicans are attaching the drilling measure to a budget bill that requires only a simple majority to pass. By contrast, overcoming a filibuster requires 60 votes

Originally Posted by tricky

if you read the news....



The administration has said the drilling offers "the "single greatest prospect" for onshore oil and gas development anywhere in the United States; its passage would represent a major legislative triumph for Bush.

To make that happen, Senate Republicans are attaching the drilling measure to a budget bill that requires only a simple majority to pass. By contrast, overcoming a filibuster requires 60 votes

so Congress is looking to pass a bill authorizing drilling....

the DNC tried to block and the RNC out flanked them...

Which means you're pissed that the RNC used a parliamentarian technique to counter a GOP parliamentarian technique?

Duplicitous that....

[tricky]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

so Congress is looking to pass a bill authorizing drilling....

the DNC tried to block and the RNC out flanked them...

Which means you're pissed that the RNC used a parliamentarian technique to counter a GOP parliamentarian technique?

Duplicitous that....

I'm pissed because artic drilling isnt going to solve the problem, so they try to backdoor it in a budget bill. Like asking mom after dad said no. Republican's concern for the environment is non-existant. I fail to see how this project is going to lower prices or increase the oil supply. Will take several years before drilling even begins.

Originally Posted by tricky

I'm pissed because artic drilling isnt going to solve the problem, so they try to backdoor it in a budget bill. Like asking mom after dad said no. Republican's concern for the environment is non-existant. I fail to see how this project is going to lower prices or increase the oil supply. Will take several years before drilling even begins.

The technique used to get the bill an up or down vote is no more or less contemptable than the technique used to block the vote on it.

As for drilling, you're right there will be no immediate impact on prices.

There will however, be a long term impact on them.

[Vosh]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

The technique used to get the bill an up or down vote is no more or less contemptable than the technique used to block the vote on it.

As for drilling, you're right there will be no immediate impact on prices.

There will however, be a long term impact on them.

Didnt BFP say that it won't last any longer 2 years or so even if we did drill?

What astonishes me is that we use such high number of oil, and yet it seems the supply is limitless, when it can't be... when does it end, and what happens then?

[SmoothHeavy]

We need the oil, its not like anyone lives in the artic any ways.

Originally Posted by Vosh

Didnt BFP say that it won't last any longer 2 years or so even if we did drill?

What astonishes me is that we use such high number of oil, and yet it seems the supply is limitless, when it can't be... when does it end, and what happens then?

It would last 2 years if we used oil from no other source at current consumption rates...


duh?! we start growing human drones in goo and harvest their natural electricity

[tricky]

Originally Posted by Vosh

Didnt BFP say that it won't last any longer 2 years or so even if we did drill?

What astonishes me is that we use such high number of oil, and yet it seems the supply is limitless, when it can't be... when does it end, and what happens then?

dont you know, america lives for today. we'll worry about tomorrow, well, tomorrow.

the level of shortsightedness in this country is disturbing. if all the energy & money directed towards arctic drilling was used on alternative energy sources...oh wait, that wouldn't grease bush's pocket

[Vosh]

Man, it's become impossible to get a straight answer from you people... Scratch that, it never was.

Ok, ok. So let's say if we ONLY use that oil then it lasts two years, then will it really lower prices that much or maky that big of a difference in the market?

And seriously, what do projections say about all this oil being used up? When, what do we do then, any plans for that day?

I ask on a global scale and solely for the US.

[dfwtrader]

does anyone complaining on here about oil consumption drive a hybrid car, take the dart buses or even car pool in cab when they go out???

if not you are not really doing your part to combat the wastefulness that you so despise.

Originally Posted by tricky

dont you know, america lives for today. we'll worry about tomorrow, well, tomorrow.

the level of shortsightedness in this country is disturbing. if all the energy & money directed towards arctic drilling was used on alternative energy sources...oh wait, that wouldn't grease bush's pocket

Originally Posted by dfwtrader

does anyone complaining on here about oil consumption drive a hybrid car, take the dart buses or even car pool in cab when they go out???

if not you are not really doing your part to combat the wastefulness that you so despise.

shut up you fascist-scum capitalist free trade creep...

next thing you know you'd want people to take responsiblility for other areas of their lives....

[tricky]

Originally Posted by dfwtrader

does anyone complaining on here about oil consumption drive a hybrid car, take the dart buses or even car pool in cab when they go out???

if not you are not really doing your part to combat the wastefulness that you so despise.

sorry, the the government gave all the tax breaks to the oil companies instead of hybrid car buyers

[dfwtrader]

actually they do offer a tax break
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...104549,00.html

but isnt that a bit besides the point....most people find it a necessity to buy a car anyway so even if you are not getting the tax break shouldnt you buy the most economical/fuel efficient.....

that still does not explain why you and or your friends dont take the bus to work and call a minivan cab that runs on natural gas(and yes they have them) to take you to crave and seven.

Originally Posted by tricky

sorry, the the government gave all the tax breaks to the oil companies instead of hybrid car buyers