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transparentaura · 03-27-05, 10:33 PM

March 28, 2005
Years Ago, DeLay's Father Was Taken Off Life Support
By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

WASHINGTON, March 27 - Representative Tom DeLay, the House majority leader and leader of the Congressional effort to spare Terri Schiavo's life, was confronted more than 16 years ago with his own agonizing end-of-life dilemma and agreed to withdraw life support from the patient, his father, according to a report Sunday in The Los Angeles Times.

The newspaper reported that Mr. DeLay's father, Charles Ray DeLay, 65, a drilling contractor, was severely injured in 1988 in an accident at his home in Canyon Lake, Tex.

He had been testing a backyard tram he had built to carry family and visitors down a 200-foot slope toward the lake when the tram jumped the track, throwing him headfirst into a tree.

The account said that Mr. DeLay had suffered multiple injuries, including kidney failure, and that his wife, Maxine, and their other children had made the initial decision to withhold kidney dialysis and other treatments when it became clear he could not recover. Representative DeLay, at the time in his third term in the House, did not object, the newspaper's report said.

Mr. DeLay, now the Republican leader of the House, has been at the center of Congress's efforts to intervene in the Schiavo case and has taken an unusually public role.

In a meeting before the Family Research Council, a conservative Christian group, Mr. DeLay linked the Schiavo case to a broader attack on both him and the conservative movement in general. In press releases and statements on the House floor, he spoke of Ms. Schiavo in explicitly religious and moral terms.

"Congress has a legislative and moral duty to do what we can to protect her," Mr. DeLay said on March 17, after the House passed a measure intended to prevent the withdrawal of Ms. Schiavo's feeding tube. "Her life is being threatened, and we have it in our power to act on her behalf. Every human life deserves at least that much."

A spokesman for Mr. DeLay did not return telephone calls or an e-mail message on Sunday.

However, Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, said that Mr. DeLay did not act inconsistently, and that the congressman's father could not be compared to Ms. Schiavo, who was receiving no medical treatment other than nutrition and hydration through a feeding tube.

"Two different situations," Mr. Perkins said. "With Terri Schiavo, there was no plug pulled, there was no respirator taken away from her. She was simply by court order deprived of food and water."

willy_jack · 03-27-05, 10:42 PM

Apparently, Mr. DeLay is suffering from Alzheimers. That or he is just a blatant hypocrite.

Either way he should be removed from office.

transparentaura · 03-27-05, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy_jack

Apparently, Mr. DeLay is suffering from Alzheimers. That or he is just a blatant hypocrite.

Thats the problem with posing as the representative of morality. Sooner or later it will come back to bite you in the ass. Nobody is perfect. If you question the morality of others, your own past becomes fair game.

willy_jack · 03-27-05, 10:59 PM

Morality is auctioned off to the highest bidder these days.

Vosh · 03-28-05, 01:34 AM

Perhaps he feels he made a mistake, and now is trying to rectify it on a broader scale since he feels he wishes the same mistake or one similiar to his own not be made.

More to the point it was 16 years ago. WOW! That's... wait for it... a LONG TIME.

You act as if people aren't suppose to change, aren't suppose to feel differently about situations and their beliefs.

Article = Pathetic

willy_jack · 03-28-05, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vosh

Perhaps he feels he made a mistake, and now is trying to rectify it on a broader scale since he feels he wishes the same mistake or one similiar to his own not be made.

More to the point it was 16 years ago. WOW! That's... wait for it... a LONG TIME.

You act as if people aren't suppose to change, aren't suppose to feel differently about situations and their beliefs.

Article = Pathetic

YEAH WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES LIKE:

GAY PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO GET MARRIED.

you = pathetic for taking up for a hypocritical piece of shit like delay....

transparentaura · 03-28-05, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vosh

Perhaps he feels he made a mistake, and now is trying to rectify it on a broader scale since he feels he wishes the same mistake or one similiar to his own not be made.

More to the point it was 16 years ago. WOW! That's... wait for it... a LONG TIME.

You act as if people aren't suppose to change, aren't suppose to feel differently about situations and their beliefs.

Article = Pathetic

Delay and his family were allowed, properly, to make a decision without government interference.
Pathetic = The arrogance of his thinking that ordinary Americans can't do the same.

djetaine · 03-28-05, 06:48 AM

ill go ahead and be the asshole that sticks up for delay in this instance. that was a long fucking time ago and like vosh said, maybe he thinks he made a mistake. I cant honestly say whether he is right or wrong on the schiavo case becuase i still cant make up my mind about it. what i can say is he in entitled to changing his mind on something after 16 years. Just becuase i thought it was ok to smoke weed daily 6 years ago doesnt mean im going to fucking campaign for it now that i dont smoke.

bfp · 03-28-05, 10:01 AM

lol

There are reasons why the two cases are different guys, thus proving he is not a hypocrite. First, his father was 'brain dead', and on a respirator. Second, he was unconsious, and unable to gain back the mobility to return to a consious state. Third, the family 'as a whole' decided to take him off of the respirator. In the Schiavo case, the husband is making the decision, when physicians usually seek the families admission in order make the decision.

You people will fall for almost anything.

willy_jack · 03-28-05, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfp

lol

You people will fall for almost anything.

You will too.... wait for it.... Weapons of Mass Destruction.

willy_jack · 03-28-05, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfp

lol

There are reasons why the two cases are different guys, thus proving he is not a hypocrite. First, his father was 'brain dead', and on a respirator. Second, he was unconsious, and unable to gain back the mobility to return to a consious state. Third, the family 'as a whole' decided to take him off of the respirator. In the Schiavo case, the husband is making the decision, when physicians usually seek the families admission in order make the decision.

You people will fall for almost anything.

he is married to her ..... that makes him family.

bfp · 03-28-05, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy_jack

he is married to her ..... that makes him family.

Boy, he really kept his word didn't he? He is living with another woman(commonlaw wife), and has been for 10 years, and has two kids. Do you think this guy now has the power to do whatever he wants with this woman?

Any physician will tell you, they consult with 'the family' in positions like this, and if there is the slightest disagreement, they continue to err on the side of life.

bfp · 03-28-05, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy_jack

You will too.... wait for it.... Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Ooh, you've got me cornered..

Vosh · 03-28-05, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willy_jack

YEAH WE HAVE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES LIKE:

GAY PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO GET MARRIED.

you = pathetic for taking up for a hypocritical piece of shit like delay....

You know, for such an "open-minded" and "anti-war" kind of liberal, you sure don't seem to show much open-mindedness or restraint in your posts.

There are more important issues, and once again, this was 16 years ago. But I guess you don't change so no one else should...

The article is pathetic at best, and the same would be said if it was the other way around for someone supporting her right to die.

Vosh · 03-28-05, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bfp

Boy, he really kept his word didn't he? He is living with another woman(commonlaw wife), and has been for 10 years, and has two kids. Do you think this guy now has the power to do whatever he wants with this woman?

Any physician will tell you, they consult with 'the family' in positions like this, and if there is the slightest disagreement, they continue to err on the side of life.

Can you blame him for finding someone and moving on with his life? Or should have just sat by her bed forever?

03-27-05, 10:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
transparentaura Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 494	DeLay's Father Was Taken Off Life Support March 28, 2005 Years Ago, DeLay's Father Was Taken Off Life Support By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG WASHINGTON, March 27 - Representative Tom DeLay, the House majority leader and leader of the Congressional effort to spare Terri Schiavo's life, was confronted more than 16 years ago with his own agonizing end-of-life dilemma and agreed to withdraw life support from the patient, his father, according to a report Sunday in The Los Angeles Times. The newspaper reported that Mr. DeLay's father, Charles Ray DeLay, 65, a drilling contractor, was severely injured in 1988 in an accident at his home in Canyon Lake, Tex. He had been testing a backyard tram he had built to carry family and visitors down a 200-foot slope toward the lake when the tram jumped the track, throwing him headfirst into a tree. The account said that Mr. DeLay had suffered multiple injuries, including kidney failure, and that his wife, Maxine, and their other children had made the initial decision to withhold kidney dialysis and other treatments when it became clear he could not recover. Representative DeLay, at the time in his third term in the House, did not object, the newspaper's report said. Mr. DeLay, now the Republican leader of the House, has been at the center of Congress's efforts to intervene in the Schiavo case and has taken an unusually public role. In a meeting before the Family Research Council, a conservative Christian group, Mr. DeLay linked the Schiavo case to a broader attack on both him and the conservative movement in general. In press releases and statements on the House floor, he spoke of Ms. Schiavo in explicitly religious and moral terms. "Congress has a legislative and moral duty to do what we can to protect her," Mr. DeLay said on March 17, after the House passed a measure intended to prevent the withdrawal of Ms. Schiavo's feeding tube. "Her life is being threatened, and we have it in our power to act on her behalf. Every human life deserves at least that much." A spokesman for Mr. DeLay did not return telephone calls or an e-mail message on Sunday. However, Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council, said that Mr. DeLay did not act inconsistently, and that the congressman's father could not be compared to Ms. Schiavo, who was receiving no medical treatment other than nutrition and hydration through a feeding tube. "Two different situations," Mr. Perkins said. "With Terri Schiavo, there was no plug pulled, there was no respirator taken away from her. She was simply by court order deprived of food and water." __________________ Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire

03-27-05, 10:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
willy_jack Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: in my head Posts: 3,090	Apparently, Mr. DeLay is suffering from Alzheimers. That or he is just a blatant hypocrite. Either way he should be removed from office. Last edited by willy_jack; 03-27-05 at 10:48 PM.

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03-27-05, 10:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
willy_jack Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: in my head Posts: 3,090	Morality is auctioned off to the highest bidder these days.

03-28-05, 01:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
Vosh Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 703	Perhaps he feels he made a mistake, and now is trying to rectify it on a broader scale since he feels he wishes the same mistake or one similiar to his own not be made. More to the point it was 16 years ago. WOW! That's... wait for it... a LONG TIME. You act as if people aren't suppose to change, aren't suppose to feel differently about situations and their beliefs. Article = Pathetic

03-28-05, 10:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
bfp Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: McKidney Posts: 4,278	lol There are reasons why the two cases are different guys, thus proving he is not a hypocrite. First, his father was 'brain dead', and on a respirator. Second, he was unconsious, and unable to gain back the mobility to return to a consious state. Third, the family 'as a whole' decided to take him off of the respirator. In the Schiavo case, the husband is making the decision, when physicians usually seek the families admission in order make the decision. You people will fall for almost anything.