Are we going to war with China?

[Eddie Archive]

It seems very possible.

[ChunkyAcidReflux]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

It seems very possible.

how are we going to go to war with China if they are producing all of our troops uniforms, mess kits, gun cleaning kits etc? If we were to go back to producing those things in America there would be to many people with real jobs and we couldnt get anyone to join the military to die for us.

Originally Posted by TheDoc

It seems very possible.

seems very improbable


why would we?


Huntington aside, its a huge place and we've not got the resources to fight China

[ChunkyAcidReflux]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

seems very improbable


why would we?


Huntington aside, its a huge place and we've not got the resources to fight China

how about an economic war?

[willy_jack]

Originally Posted by uselesknowledge

we couldnt get anyone to join the military to die for us.

Well, according to the military we already cannot get anyone to join Haliburtons militia..... I mean the US military.

Originally Posted by uselesknowledge

how about an economic war?

already started......


china's refusal to put their currency on the market and their centrally planned economy permits them to have deflated currency values such that manufacturing is moving there in vast herds.... once they've secured the infrastructure (paid for by foreign investment) they'll control the means of production in so far as other nations will have relatively few domesticly produced wigits.....which will permit them a great deal of foreign policy power such that they may well maintain a global hegemony through economic control....

or something like that...

[Eddie Archive]

Well some of china's people would like democracy in their country however their gov't wants communism. and with their invovlement with North Korea, looks like we may go to war with them.

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Well some of china's people would like democracy in their country however their gov't wants communism. and with their invovlement with North Korea, looks like we may go to war with them.

Could you clarify for me why we'd go to war with China because they're involved with NK?

[ChunkyAcidReflux]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Well some of china's people would like democracy in their country however their gov't wants communism. and with their invovlement with North Korea, looks like we may go to war with them.

if we were to go to war how exactly could the Us take on the sheer numbers that are involved. I dont ahve current stats, but 5 years ago they said tha every american troop would have to kill 200 chinese troops....not to mention they are emerging in new technologies that are putting them on par with our own so there is no technological advantage like we had in the middle east.

[Eddie Archive]

Originally Posted by xiannaix

Could you clarify for me why we'd go to war with China because they're involved with NK?

North Korea is advancing their Nuclear Arms Program and guess who'd like to have a piece of that. China! Both China and North korea are communist, so they are allies.

[ChunkyAcidReflux]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

North Korea is advancing their Nuclear Arms Program and guess who'd like to have a piece of that. China! Both China and North korea are communist, so they are allies.

China has had Nukes ever since the fall of the soviet Union, they dont need NK. NK is to China what Cuba was to the USSR.

Originally Posted by TheDoc

North Korea is advancing their Nuclear Arms Program and guess who'd like to have a piece of that. China! Both China and North korea are communist, so they are allies.

You are asserting that NK has nuclear technology that China doesn't have? Not very likely - in fact terribly unlikely (though I'm open to being educated on this)

We're not invading NK - they have nukes. It is our, wise, policy not to attack nuclear armed countries....and especially ones run by raving nutjobs.

They are both commies.....well....welshdj will argue that one with you.... but they are both centrally planned economies run by despots.

China did support NK in 1952 (it was '52 wasn't it?).


given those factors I'm still confused why we'd go to war with China....

[jeffspock]

we will not go to war with china.

their 1 billion + population is too important to our own buisness interests.

[johnny861]

declaring war on China would make no more sense than China declaring war on the US. There's too much economic gain to be had between the two nations to get into an economic conflict. In fact, China is buying up available US tbills, encouraging the US to borrow more money and further fuel the global economy.

Will China be the next super power? China has been carefully playing its cards well and so it is VERY likely they will be the next super power.

As far as seeking democracy in China, there are still scores of people that would entertain the idea, but as Capitalism takes hold and the quality of life of Chinese citizens continue to rise, the push for any kind of "regime" change may fall second to pursuing economic prosperity.

I think we'll find the big push for democracy to occur in Taiwan, but even there it's a divided issue. A lot of my taiwanese friends and those that i have met are pro-USA and a few even pro-Bush, but have stated that if given a choice between an independent Taiwan or to remain under Chinese rule, they all made it clear to me that they are very proud of their Chinese ancestry and would choose Chinese rule (modified democracy 0 / modified communism 1 ?). Now, they obviously don't represent the views of every Taiwanese citizen, but it's interesting out of these 20 some-odd Taiwanese nationals I have met from Dallas to San Antonio, that they would all have similar view points.

[c double]

It's more like we're playing chess with China and Russia than going to war... we'll see what happens though. If a war actually goes down, it might be because both governments are interested in reducing population... so don't join the friggin army reserves.