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Old 08-30-05, 10:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Interview with C Sheehan

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=4822109

This is pure comedy. She probably thought it was going to be a breeze I guess, but even when the guy asked slightly controversial questions, she dodged them by saying "Why are you asking these questions", "Why don't you ask me what our plans are in the future", and "I have two minutes left", trying to get off the phone. The interviewer asked why Casey Sheehan joined the military, and her intelligent answer went something like this: "Because the military recruiters lied to him and tricked him". She was supposed to be on for 30 mins, but she was only on there for less than 6. When he asked if Casey joined after the war started she said she had to go and hung up.

Well worth the listen - it's only 6 minutes.
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Old 08-30-05, 11:10 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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It takes a special caliber of political hack to enjoy mocking a Gold Star Mother this much.
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Old 08-30-05, 11:53 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It takes a special caliber of political hack to enjoy mocking a Gold Star Mother this much.

She definently deserves it.
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Old 08-30-05, 11:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It takes a special caliber of political hack to enjoy mocking a Gold Star Mother this much.
Ryan - she has put herself in the media to get her message out. That being the case she's subject to being questioned. She does nto get a free pass to criticize the administration without being subject to the same in return just because she's got a dead son... though this is exactly what is hoped for and wht you're defending and specifically on that basis.... anyway - she wasn't being mocked. I heard the interview.
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So I'm right in my thinking... that's not Cindy Sheehan?
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It takes a special caliber of political hack to enjoy mocking a Gold Star Mother this much.
yea you know NPR, always bashing liberals and mocking Gold Star mothers. damn neocon evangelical bullshit.
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Interesting interview.
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yea you know NPR, always bashing liberals and mocking Gold Star mothers. damn neocon evangelical bullshit.
I was talking about bfp. Calm down.
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She deserves it
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Ryan - she has put herself in the media to get her message out. That being the case she's subject to being questioned. She does nto get a free pass to criticize the administration without being subject to the same in return just because she's got a dead son... though this is exactly what is hoped for and wht you're defending and specifically on that basis.... anyway - she wasn't being mocked. I heard the interview.
She's a grieving mother who is obviously trying to find a way to justify her son's death. And she IS being mocked in the right-wing media. I was not implying that she was being mocked in this interview.

Here's the truth about Cindy Sheehan - the anti-war Left (and I use that term to refer the Hollywood degenerates and the small minority of bongo hippies) are exploiting this woman, who is obviously in a great deal of pain and who is trying to make sense of this tragedy, in order to push their anti-Bush agenda. The pro-war Right (and I use that term to refer to the vast majority of Republicans, who still have not taken their Bush goggles off to see how badly they've been duped) are exploiting her by trying to pin her irrational and emotional pleas to "pull out of Iraq now" on everyone who is so legitimately opposed to this political disaster. The far-Right, war-horny conservatives are so fearful of losing their power (and I think they're beginning to smell it) and so full of contempt for those who oppose their agenda in any way, they will resort to anything that diverts attention away from the fact that they were 100% wrong. For these people, it's easier to mock a grieving mother than it is to admit fault.
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Here's the truth about Cindy Sheehan - the anti-war Left (and I use that term to refer the Hollywood degenerates and the small minority of bongo hippies) are exploiting this woman, who is obviously in a great deal of pain and who is trying to make sense of this tragedy, in order to push their anti-Bush agenda. The pro-war Right (and I use that term to refer to the vast majority of Republicans, who still have not taken their Bush goggles off to see how badly they've been duped) are exploiting her by trying to pin her irrational and emotional pleas to "pull out of Iraq now" on everyone who is so legitimately opposed to this political disaster. The far-Right, war-horny conservatives are so fearful of losing their power (and I think they're beginning to smell it) and so full of contempt for those who oppose their agenda in any way, they will resort to anything that diverts attention away from the fact that they were 100% wrong. For these people, it's easier to mock a grieving mother than it is to admit fault.

That's the truth how you see it. It's sickening though, that these anti-war bums will literally do anything at the expense of the pain that these troops go through, the loss of limbs, mental anguish, even death. You have anti-war patrons at Walter Reed mocking the very service these troops believe in by having flag draped coffins, posters that say 'Maimed for a Lie' and 'Enlist Here to Die for Halliburton', telling them that their service has been exploited by Halliburton and Bechtel. How do you think they feel, looking out the window of the hospital to see individuals insulting their duty? Well, Cindy is saying the same thing. She has the same motives that these anti-war types at Walter Reed have.

She cares more about a book or movie deal then she does about her sons service, in which he re-enlisted after the Iraqi invasion.

It's quite pathetic of her.

So, for you guys, we conservatives get our rocks off and are anxious to lash out at her because we are hesitant to admit we are wrong.

That's such a loaded statement. The whole argument is loaded, politically. Not logically. Instead of looking at it for what it is, her motivations, instead of looking at who is funding her, etc., it's the opposing view, the war mongers who are at fault, because we are too afraid to admit it.

Okay, got it.
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That's the truth how you see it. It's sickening though, that these anti-war bums will literally do anything at the expense of the pain that these troops go through, the loss of limbs, mental anguish, even death. You have anti-war patrons at Walter Reed mocking the very service these troops believe in by having flag draped coffins, posters that say 'Maimed for a Lie' and 'Enlist Here to Die for Halliburton', telling them that their service has been exploited by Halliburton and Bechtel. How do you think they feel, looking out the window of the hospital to see individuals insulting their duty? Well, Cindy is saying the same thing. She has the same motives that these anti-war types at Walter Reed have.
The soldiers were killed and maimed for one reason and one reason only - the executive decision of your president and the support he got from people like you. Pat yourself on the back.

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She cares more about a book or movie deal then she does about her sons service, in which he re-enlisted after the Iraqi invasion.

It's quite pathetic of her.
Easy for someone who has sacrificed NOTHING to say.

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So, for you guys, we conservatives get our rocks off and are anxious to lash out at her because we are hesitant to admit we are wrong.
Well you do a lot more insulting and demonizing of the opposition than you do addressing your own shortcomings - which are many.

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That's such a loaded statement. The whole argument is loaded, politically. Not logically. Instead of looking at it for what it is, her motivations, instead of looking at who is funding her, etc., it's the opposing view, the war mongers who are at fault, because we are too afraid to admit it.

Okay, got it.
Again, you ARE at fault for the war. You got duped and you'd probably do it all over again if you had the chance. That's what scares the hell out of the rest of us.
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Here's the truth about Cindy Sheehan - the anti-war Left (and I use that term to refer the Hollywood degenerates and the small minority of bongo hippies) are exploiting this woman, who is obviously in a great deal of pain and who is trying to make sense of this tragedy, in order to push their anti-Bush agenda.
that is true and tragic
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that is true and tragic
Oh, just that one part, huh?
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Old 08-30-05, 03:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Oh, just that one part, huh?
yeah, just that part.... the latter part was opinion and editorial and you know I don't share that POV
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