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Old 10-18-05, 10:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Miers is the closet conservative prolife champion afterall

the 89' memo supports. the conservative base have got their moral champion afterall. maybe the hardline right wont bitch about her resume' anymore. so much for bush sliding her in on downlow. let the nomination war begin.
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Old 10-18-05, 11:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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the 89' memo supports. the conservative base have got their moral champion afterall. maybe the hardline right wont bitch about her resume' anymore. so much for bush sliding her in on downlow. let the nomination war begin.
good lord - you've stumbled on information that came out the day of her nomination!


let me take this opportunity to again bash this nomination.


SCOTUS is the realm of pointy headed legal geniuses.... not Dallas City Council Aluma.

She may very well be a conservative and may very well rule on issues in a way that I'd appreciate as far as the specific outcome of that case.....

However, that is a cheap victory. What I want and what we need is a court that is bold and brave and willing to make rulings of law constrained by the constituion that provide clear guidance rather than the patchwork crazy quilt of crap we've gotten in many areas of law as of late. Clearly articulated and lasting principals defining rules of law is what SCOTUS is to provide.... not a specific outcome.

We need tower giants of intellect - not buddies of the POTUS.
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Old 10-20-05, 09:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah - if she's prolife, then great, but its kind of a fumble to express support for that when the year prior she supported a p candidate who didn't
you don't have any reservations about her having never even been a judge and now she may be working for the supreme court, xian?

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Old 10-20-05, 10:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah - if she's prolife, then great, but its kind of a fumble to express support for that when the year prior she supported a p candidate who didn't
you don't have any reservations about her having never even been a judge and now she may be working for the supreme court, xian?
I'm pretty certain I have no idea what you were trying to say (are you asking my opinion of her?)... I've offered no glee for her nomination and have grabbed a couple of opportunities to bash her candidacy full bore here on DDM. Does that clarify?
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Old 10-20-05, 10:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Wow. Bush wants another Neo-Con cheerleader in a position of power. Why did this suprise anyone?

As Carlos Mencia would say "Dee Dah Duh"!!!
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Old 10-20-05, 10:59 AM   #6 (permalink)
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ok that's crystal clear
and i was just asking for curiosity's sake because to me that is a pretty big issue, the not ever having been a judge thingy
i have not seen your prior posts
 
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Old 10-20-05, 11:04 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow. Bush wants another Neo-Con cheerleader in a position of power. Why did this suprise anyone?
Because unlike Roberts whose intellectual and educational pedigree are beyond reproach this lady's are lower than those of most of my friends' credentials (the educational and intellectual part.... I'll grant her a certain level of professional acheivement....but its not sufficient to warrant elevation to the fucking Supreme Court... and, the claim that she was the first female partner at a large Dallas law firm is incorrect - I know the lady that was (is) and it ain't Ms. Miers)
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ok that's crystal clear
and i was just asking for curiosity's sake because to me that is a pretty big issue, the not ever having been a judge thingy
i have not seen your prior posts

The not having been a judge thingy doesn't trouble me. Roughly 1/3 of the Justices on the bench since the early 1900s (or some figure very close to that) had no prior judicial experience and many were very capable Justices.

A job with SCOTUS requires somethng remarkably rare. Something I'd bet less than 1% of all lawyers to ever be lawyers in this nation have had. She hasn't got it. Her qualifications seem to be adminstrative politiking positions and her current job, as I understand it is a result of her failure at the previous job.... she may be a good lawyer....hell, she may even be great but Justices for SCOTUS need to excell far beyond just being "great" they need to be remarkable and of inspriring intellect....
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Because unlike Roberts whose intellectual and educational pedigree are beyond reproach this lady's are lower than those of most of my friends' credentials (the educational and intellectual part.... I'll grant her a certain level of professional acheivement....but its not sufficient to warrant elevation to the fucking Supreme Court... and, the claim that she was the first female partner at a large Dallas law firm is incorrect - I know the lady that was (is) and it ain't Ms. Miers)
Xian, I give you credit for being individual in your support for the Republican party, unlike a lot of blind rah rah without a clue gop'ers I have met.... Lately, since the birth of my child I have even begun questioning some of my past mindless extremist leftist views on abortion..... I still support the issue, but I think that there should be limits. However, on the same hand if abortion were to ever be outlawed, then I think support programs such as welfare for single mothers should be there if needed. Where did that come from??? Old age is setting in on me.... lol.

I am glad to see you are pissed off by the appointment of Miers.....
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Xian, I give you credit for being individual in your support for the Republican party, unlike a lot of blind rah rah without a clue gop'ers I have met.... Lately, since the birth of my child I have even begun questioning some of my past mindless extremist leftist views on abortion..... I still support the issue, but I think that there should be limits. However, on the same hand if abortion were to ever be outlawed, then I think support programs such as welfare for single mothers should be there if needed. Where did that come from??? Old age is setting in on me.... lol.

I am glad to see you are pissed off by the appointment of Miers.....

I'm not a Republican Willey. I vote for them more than Dems (yes, I have and do vote for them from time to time) - and they are currently the party that I find has a hold of more issues in a way I can support than the DNC....(thought they are both losing ground...and.....GW is no Conservative...he's a fucking Republican don't let anyome tell you otherwise) anyway, I despise party politics with a passion (I recognize it as a reality - I just don't want to be associated with it)
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well if she's in the closet...

somebody needs to go shopping for her, cause that ho still stuck in 1970.
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I'm not a Republican Willey. I vote for them more than Dems (yes, I have and do vote for them from time to time) - and they are currently the party that I find has a hold of more issues in a way I can support than the DNC....(thought they are both losing ground...and.....GW is no Conservative...he's a fucking Republican don't let anyome tell you otherwise) anyway, I despise party politics with a passion (I recognize it as a reality - I just don't want to be associated with it)

Word on that. Both parties represent themeselves, and the people come last. I really think another party that can contend is needed, but once they are able to contend they will become corrupt.....

I agree GW is not Conservative. Not in the traditional sense anyway. He is a fundamentalist greed machine. Gives good conservatives from the past bad names..... actually that started with Nixon....
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somebody needs to go shopping for her, cause that ho still stuck in 1970.

come on now.....

there's no need to be such a superficial judge bashing homo is there?

she's stuck in at least 1982 - ok?
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Gives good conservatives from the past bad names..... actually that started with Nixon....
What good conservatives from the past?

on nixon... W has one upped him big time. tricky dick inherited a war, bush has fabricated his own and is soley responsible for everything that will result because of his conflict.


i heard harriet miers did a camio in Dawn of Dead.
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What good conservatives from the past?

on nixon... W has one upped him big time. tricky dick inherited a war, bush has fabricated his own and is soley responsible for everything that will result because of his conflict.


i heard harriet miers did a camio in Dawn of Dead.
Eisenhowser.... Republicans really did a lot for Civil Rights.

"In the 1950s, while Republican President Dwight Eisenhower sent troops to Little Rock, Arkansas, to enforce the Supreme Court's school-desegregation ruling, Senator John Sparkman of Alabama (Democrat presidential candidate Adlai Stevenson's former vice-presidential running mate) protested this desegregation decision by signing the congressional "Southern Manifesto" attacking the court's ruling. In 1957 the Eisenhower administration, led by Republican Attorney General Herbert Brownell, steered through Congress the first civil-rights bill since Reconstruction. In that fight over protecting voting rights, veteran civil-rights lobbyist Harry L. Kingman described Republican Senate Leader William Knowland of California (a strong conservative) as a "key man in the victory." Clearly, Republican leader Knowland took a stronger pro-civil-rights stand than Democrat Senate Leader Lyndon Johnson of Texas, who at the time was accused by some civil-rights groups of introducing amendments that weakened the bill."

And I add there is a huge difference between Eisenhowser era Republicans and the group posing as Republicans now.
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