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Old 10-20-05, 09:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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LOL, Chavez thinks the US wants to invade Venezuela

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US planning invasion, says Chavez
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez
Washington officially sees Hugo Chavez as an unfriendly leader
Venezuela's President, Hugo Chavez, says he is in possession of intelligence showing that the United States plans to invade his country.

In a BBC interview, Mr Chavez said the US was after his nation's oil, much as it had been after Iraq's.

But he stressed that any invasion would never be allowed to happen.

Mr Chavez has long accused Washington of being behind what he describes as a coup - claims the United States denies.

An attempt to unseat him three years ago was aborted.

The Venezuelan president was interviewed by the BBC's Robin Lustig in Paris, while on an official visit to France.


George W Bush should not have any reason to fear - if he does is because he has a dark ghost in his subconscious
Hugo Chavez

Meeting the president

Asked why he thought the US was trying to invade Venezuela, Mr Chavez said: "We have denounced intentions.

"A coup happened in Venezuela that was prepared by the US. What do they want? Our oil, as they did in Iraq.

"We have detected with intelligence reports plans of a supposed invasion, one that would never happen. But we have to denounce it," Mr Chavez said.

Recently a US TV evangelist, Pat Robertson, called for his assassination. Mr Chavez said this would be "cheaper than invading Venezuela".

Mr Robertson's remarks were described by the US State Department as "inappropriate", and Mr Robertson later apologised for them.

'No threat'

Mr Chavez went on to describe the US as a terrorist government.

"It is an imperialist government, one that says it fights against terrorism but protects it. The US throws stones to Latin America.


President Chavez, when will you stop using the guise of American imperialism to cover your own country's inadequacies?
Erik Risendal, USA

Your Say: Chavez's record

"But apart from that, Venezuela is the world's fifth oil exporter, and we send a million and a half barrels to the US every day," he added.

"We sell oil to people. Another thing is our political differences that I wish could be toned down."

He also denied claims that Venezuela was a threat to the international community, saying that his country wanted open relations with the whole world - a multi-polar world - but "with respect".

"George W Bush should not have any reason to fear. If he does it is because he has a dark ghost in his subconscious," he said.

Controversial leader

Correspondents says the Venezuelan president has cultivated ties with other countries that have strained relations with the US - chiefly Cuba and Iran.

Washington officially sees him as an unfriendly head of state in South America.

Mr Chavez, 55, first came to prominence as a leader of a failed coup in 1992.

After being released from prison, he embarked on a political career that swept him to power in 1998, with a promise to transform Venezuela.

Relations with Washington reached a low when he accused it of "fighting terror with terror" during the war in Afghanistan after 11 September.

The situation hardly improved when Mr Chavez accused the US of being behind the failed coup to oust him in 2002, and of funding opposition groups.

The country's vast oil reserves - the largest in the Americas - have given it a strategic importance, but the US state department denies trying to overthrow the president.
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ack, he is just creating an outside threat to further solidify his power base and distract from what is happening inside the country....

didnt anybody read "1984"???
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ack, he is just creating an outside threat to further solidify his power base and distract from what is happening inside the country....
I say fuck him and the people living there. They were stupid enough to vote him into power. You would think that with their history (two previous dictators) they would know better. *shrug*


Only thing that I hate is that I have family living there.
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wonderful country. great people. just choose bad leaders....

sorta like this other country i know....
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As far as I am aware EVERY country in the world has contingency plans for, quite literally, every eventuality, I'm pretty sure that there are plans and hypothesis somewhere in the Pentagon for invading the UK, too, just as I would think (and hope) there are the same for the UK doing the same to the US.

It makes for interesting war games and ideas. After all, when you work out battle tactics, you don't plan to fight someone worse than you, you plan to fight those that are superior (or at least equal) to you; and, of course, those that you may actually have to attack
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wonderful country. great people. just choose bad leaders....

sorta like this other country i know....

except, amongst other similar slight variations, you're not going to get shot for calling our President a liar
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except, amongst other similar slight variations, you're not going to get shot for calling our President a liar
Depends if you fit the profile or not, surely....?
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I say we invade North Pole. I am convinced Santa ain't just making toys. He has yellow cake. I have it confirmed from a reliable source that he bought it from the Easter Bunny, and that the Tooth Fairy was suppyling him with Uranium.
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As far as I am aware EVERY country in the world has contingency plans for, quite literally, every eventuality, I'm pretty sure that there are plans and hypothesis somewhere in the Pentagon for invading the UK, too, just as I would think (and hope) there are the same for the UK doing the same to the US.

It makes for interesting war games and ideas. After all, when you work out battle tactics, you don't plan to fight someone worse than you, you plan to fight those that are superior (or at least equal) to you.
Of course, I expect this to be true as well. For all the reasons you stated. Plus we try to plan for all contingencies and the scenerios and geography can make for interesting teaching models.... as well as preparing to do things such as repel an entrenched enemy force from the territory of an ally.... think pushing the Germans out of France
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do they have any natural resources we might need, or can profit from? because if so...
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do they have any natural resources we might need, or can profit from? because if so...

oil, coffee, emeralds and cocaine.....

that's about it.
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I say fuck him and the people living there. They were stupid enough to vote him into power. You would think that with their history (two previous dictators) they would know better. *shrug*


Only thing that I hate is that I have family living there.
the poor people in the country far out number the working middle class and upper class more democratic leaning populus, the political figures buy the peasants votes by promising help and painting their town before election day. Then they bus in millions of poor people to out number the other votes come election day. Its a sad deal where the poor get suckered and the middle class get screwed, happens all over down there. Its nothing knew however, pimping the poor for power, sound familiar?
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oil, coffee, emeralds and cocaine.....

that's about it.

That's colombia my man.
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the poor people in the country far out number the working middle class and upper class more democratic leaning populus, the political figures buy the peasants votes by promising help and painting their town before election day. Then they bus in millions of poor people to out number the other votes come election day. Its a sad deal where the poor get suckered and the middle class get screwed, happens all over down there. Its nothing knew however, pimping the poor for power, sound familiar?

My parents left Venezuela right around the time where the gap between the classes was widening. The rich left, the middle class got poorer and the goverment kept on stealing. Then Chavez, as you stated, started going after the lower incomme people and "inviting" the low class inmmigrants from it's two borders to come live there. Boom instant election. People forget their past so easily. Sad too as Venezuela is a beautiful country.
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