The World Without Zionism, and America

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http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com...seen-this.html

Why haven't we heard much of this in the press? We heard the statements in regards to Zionism, and Israel, but they were speaking to us and Britain as well.

The image behind him seems to show that the American ball has cracked, I assume that is in reference to 9/11.

After reading what is posted below, who doesn't think a nuclear warhead would be placed in our cities?

We are in the process of an historical war between the World of Arrogance [i.e. the West] and the Islamic world, and this war has been going on for hundreds of years. ...

The issue of this [World without Zionism] conference is very valuable. In this very grave war, many people are trying to scatter grains of desperation and hopelessness regarding the struggle between the Islamic world and the front of the infidels ...

Is it possible for us to witness a world without America and Zionism? But you had best know that this slogan and this goal are attainable, and surely can be achieved...

We have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization... we must make use of everything we have at hand to strike at this front by means of our suicide operations or by means of our missiles. There are 29 sensitive sites in the U.S. and in the West. We have already spied on these sites and we know how we are going to attack them.

Abbasi believes that when President Bush says that no option is off the table he is only playing chicken. According to respected Iranian analyst, Amir Taheri, Abbassi has said:

The Americans are not ready to send a million men (to defeat the Islamic Republic)," Abbasi said. "Even economic sanctions against the Islamic Republic will fail thanks to opposition from the Western public opinion and the refusal of most countries to implement (them). ...

But it is not only the US that Abbasi wants to take on and humiliate. He has described Britain as "the mother of all evils". In his lecture he claimed that the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel, and the Gulf states were all "children of the same mother: the British Empire." As for France and Germany, they are "countries in terminal decline", according to Abbasi.

"Once we have defeated the Anglo-Saxons the rest will run for cover," he told his audience.

[BLAZEN]

And we attacked IRAQ because they were the main threat?

Iraq was never the main threat, insurgant's are like gangsters only able to pulloff very localized attacks

With the muslim uprise, it will only get stronger and now there is going to be two muslim nation's with the ability for WMD's.


His comment's are just the begining of a nation funded war not a insurgent/ war like in iraq

[shonuf]

Bilderberger Admits Influence On World Decisions

American Free Press | October 17 2005
By James P. Tucker Jr.

More and more European news outlets are bucking the ban on exposing the shadowy globalist group known as Bilderberg and reporting in depth on this secret gathering of kingmakers and power elites.

While Bilderberg’s top man insists that it is just a good old boys club, another Bilderberg participant readily admits it holds influence in global decisionmaking, BBC News reports from London.

“Will Hutton, an economic analyst and former newspaper editor who attended a Bilderberg meeting in 1997, says people take part in these networks in order to influence the way the world works, to create what he calls ‘the international common sense’ about policy,” BBC said.

“On every issue that might influence your business you will hear first hand the people who are actually making those decisions and you will play a part in helping them make those decisions and formulating the common sense,” BBC quotes Hutton.

“And that ‘common sense’ is one which supports the interests of Bilderberg’s main participants—in particular free trade,” BBC told listeners, who number in the millions.

“Viscount Davignon says that at the annual meetings, ‘automatically around the table you have internationalists’—people who support the work of the World Trade Organization, transatlantic cooperation and European integration.”

Viscount Etienne Davignon, 73, is chairman of Bilderberg and a former European commissioner. Today, Davignon is a wealthy banker and is known as the public face behind the unification of Europe under one currency, the euro.

BBC’s Bill Hayton interviewed him at his office in Brussels. Hayton correctly called it an “extremely rare interview.”

“I don’t think [we are] a global ruling class because I don’t think a global ruling class exists,” Davignon told BBC listeners. “I simply think it’s people who have influence interested to speak to other people who have influence.”

Davignon said “business influences society and politics influences society—that’s purely common sense. It’s not that business contests the right of democratically elected leaders to lead.”

“For Bilderberg critics the fact that there is almost no publicity about the annual meetings is proof they are up to no good,” BBC’s Hayton said on air. “Jim Tucker, [senior] editor of . . . American Free Press, for example, alleges they organize wars and elect and depose political leaders. He describes the group as simply ‘evil.’ So where does the truth lie?”

Bilderberg meetings “often feature future political leaders shortly before they become household names,” Hayton said. “Bill Clinton went in 1991, while still governor of Arkansas. Tony Blair was there two years later while still an
opposition member of Parliament. All the recent presidents of the European Commission attended Bilderberg meetings before they were appointed.”

BBC did not mention that Blair also attended in 1998 as prime minister.

NO ACCIDENT

Davignon explained that Bilderberg’s steering committee “does its best assessment of who are the bright new boys or girls in the beginning phase of their career who would like to get known. . . . It’s not a total accident.”

“Professor Kees van der Piji of Sussex University in Britain says such private networks of corporate and political leaders play an informal but crucial role in the modern world,” Hayton said. He quotes the professor:

“ ‘There need to be places where these people can think about the main challenges ahead, coordinate where policies should be going, and find out where there could be a consensus.’ ”

This benign image of Bilderberg, however, denies reality. A simple glance at the secret roster of attendees shows it is composed of the wealthy elites, who are all seeking similar goals—increasing their power and profits, while turning the rest of us into serfs on the global plantation.

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Originally Posted by BLAZEN

And we attacked IRAQ because they were the main threat?

Iraq was never the main threat, insurgant's are like gangsters only able to pulloff very localized attacks

With the muslim uprise, it will only get stronger and now there is going to be two muslim nation's with the ability for WMD's.


His comment's are just the begining of a nation funded war not a insurgent/ war like in iraq

Post 9/11, it was logically reasonable to go into that country and take him out. You can ask why Iraq before any other country, but it doesn't matter. Saddam worked with al-qaeda in the past, and worked to get terrorist camps up and running in al-Nasiriaya, al-Fallujah, and Iraq's Kurdish region, where we found massive evidence after the liberation, of ansar al-Islam's activity.

According to sensitive CIA reporting from a "regular and reliable source," al-Qaida's number two, Zawahiri, visited Baghdad and met with Iraqi Vice President on Feb 3 of 98. The goal of the visit was to arrange for coordination between Iraq and Bin Laden, and to establish camps in Fallujah, Nasiriyah, and Iraqi Kurdistan under the leadership of Abdul-Aziz.

According to sensitive CIA reporting, the Saudi Arabian National Guard went on a kingdom-wide heightened state of altert in late Dec 2000 after learning that Saddam agreed to assist al-Qaida in attacking US and UK intrests in Saudi Arabia.

And if you haven't noticed, Iran is sending streams of insurgents into Iraq to create instability.

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Bilderger Admits Influence On World Decisions

What does this have to do with anything related to Iran?

And that shows you the disdain the BBC holds for the west. The last paragraph is more of an opinion editorial, than a news article.

This benign image of Bilderberg, however, denies reality. A simple glance at the secret roster of attendees shows it is composed of the wealthy elites, who are all seeking similar goals—increasing their power and profits, while turning the rest of us into serfs on the global plantation.

[shonuf]

really? so the bilderberg list is made up of non wealthy people who want to give money to everyone?

[shonuf]

The Ringworm Children: How the Israeli Government Irradiated 100, 000 Israeli Kids

Israel Insider | October 28 2005
By Barry Chamish

On August 14, at 9 PM, Israel's Channel Ten television screened a documentary film which exposes the ugliest secret of Israel's Labor party founders: the deliberate mass radiation poisoning of nearly all Sephardi youths of a generation.

"The Ringworm Children" (translated in Hebrew as "100, 000 Rays"), directed by David Belhassen and Asher Hemias, recently won the prize for "best documentary" at the Haifa International film festival, and in the past year has made the rounds of Jewish and Israeli film festivals around the world. But it had yet to come to Israeli television screens. The subject is the mass irradiation of hundreds of thousands of young Israeli immigrants from Middle Eastern countries -- Sephardim, as they are called today. The story goes like this:

In 1951, the director general of the Israeli Health Ministry, Dr. Chaim Sheba, flew to America and returned with seven x-ray machines, supplied to him by the American army.

They were to be used in a mass atomic experiment with an entire generation of Sephardi youths to be used as guinea pigs. Every Sephardi child was to be given 35, 000 times the maximum dose of x-rays through his head. For doing so, the American government paid the Israeli government 300 million Israeli liras a year. The entire Health budget was 60 million liras. The money paid by the Americans is equivalent to billions of dollars today.

To fool the parents of the victims, the children were taken away on "school trips" and their parents were later told the x-rays were a treatment for the scourge of scalpal ringworm. 6, 000 of the children died shortly after their doses were given, while many of the rest developed cancers that killed thousands over time and are still killing them now. While living, the victims suffered from disorders such as epilepsy, amnesia, Alzheimer's disease, chronic headaches and psychosis.

That is the subject of the documentary in cold terms. It is another matter to see the victims on the screen.

To watch the Moroccan lady describe what getting 35, 000 times the dose of allowable x-rays in her head feels like. "I screamed make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. Make the headache go away. But it never went away."

To watch the bearded man walk hunched down the street. "I'm in my fifties and everyone thinks I'm in my seventies. I have to stoop when I walk so I won't fall over. They took my youth away with those x-rays."

To watch the old lady who administered the doses to thousands of children: "They brought them in lines. First their heads were shaved and smeared in burning gel. Then a ball was put between their legs and the children were ordered not to drop it, so they wouldn't move. The children weren't protected over the rest of their bodies. There were no lead vests for them. I was told I was doing good by helping to remove ringworm. If I knew what dangers the children were facing, I would never have cooperated. Never!"

Because the whole body was exposed to the rays, the genetic makeup of the children was often altered, affecting the next generation. We watch the woman with the distorted face explain, "All three of my children have the same cancers my family suffered. Are you going to tell me that's a coincidence?"

The majority of the victims were Moroccan because they were the most numerous of the Sephardi immigrants. The generation that was poisoned became the country's perpetual poor and criminal class. It didn't make sense. The Moroccans who fled to France became prosperous and highly educated. The common explanation was that France got the rich, thus smart ones. The real explanation is that every French Moroccan child didn't have his brain cells fried with gamma rays.

The film made it perfectly plain that this operation was no accident. The dangers of x-rays had been known for over forty years. We read the official guidelines for x-ray treatment in 1952. The maximum dose to be given a child in Israel was .5 rad. There was no mistake made. The children were deliberately poisoned.

David Deri makes the point that only Sephardi children received the x-rays: "I was in class and the men came to take us on a tour. They asked our names. The Ashkenazi children were told to return to their seats. The dark children were put on the bus."

The film presents a historian who first gives a potted history of the eugenics movement. In a later sound bite, he declares that the ringworm operation was a eugenics program aimed at weeding out the perceived weak strains of society. The Moroccan lady is back on the screen. "It was a Holocaust, a Sephardi Holocaust. And what I want to know is why no one stood up to stop it."

David Deri, on film and then as a panel member, relates the frustration he encountered when trying to find his childhood medical records. "All I wanted to know was what they did to me. I wanted to know who authorized it. I wanted to trace the chain of command. But the Health Ministry told me my records were missing." Boaz Lev, the Health Ministry's spokesman chimes in: "Almost all the records were burned in a fire."

We are told that a US law in the late '40s put a stop to the human radiation experiments conducted on prisoners, the mentally feeble and the like. The American atomic program needed a new source of human lab rats and the Israeli government supplied it. Here was the government cabinet at the time of the ringworm atrocities:

Prime Minister - David Ben Gurion; Finance Minister - Eliezer Kaplan; Settlement Minister - Levi Eshkol; Foreign Minister - Moshe Sharrett; Health Minister - Yosef Burg;
Labor Minister - Golda Meir; Police Minister - Amos Ben Gurion.

The highest ranking non-cabinet post belonged to the Director General of the Defence Ministry, Shimon Peres.

That a program involving the equivalent of billions of dollars of American government funds should be unknown to the Prime Minister of cash-strapped Israel is ridiculous. Ben Gurion had to have been in on the horrors and undoubtedly chose his son to be Police Minister in case anyone interfered with them.

Finance Minister Eliezer Kaplan was rewarded for eternity with a hospital named after him near Rehovot. But he's not alone in this honor. Chaim Sheba, who ran Ringworm Incorporated, had a whole medical complex named after him. Needless to say, if there is an ounce of decency in the local medical profession, those hospital names will have to change.

After the film ended, there was a panel discussion which included a Moroccan singer, David Edri, head of the Compensation Committee for Ringworm X-Ray Victims, and Boaz Lev, a spokesman for the Ministry Of Health.

TV host Dan Margalit tried to put a better face on what he'd witnessed. He explained meekly that "the state was poor. It was a matter of day to day survival." Then he stopped. He knew there was no excusing the atrocities which the Sephardi children endured.

But it was the Moroccan singer who summed up the experience best. "It's going to hurt, but the truth has to be told. If not, the wounds will never heal."

There is one person alive who knows the truth: Shimon Peres. The only way to get to the truth and start the healing is to investigate him for his role in the mass poisoning of over 100, 000 Sephardi children and youth.

But here is why that won't happen. The film was aired at the same time as the highest-rated TV show of the year, the finale of Israel's talent-hunt show: "A Star Is Born." The next day, the newly-born star's photo took up half the front pages. There was not a word about "The Ringworm Children" in any paper, nor on the Internet. Until now.

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Originally Posted by BLAZEN

And we attacked IRAQ because they were the main threat?

Amongst other reasons yes. Its not really a point of debate as to whether or not Iraq was a threat - direct and indirect. The larger debate was how much and how likely would that threat come to pass.

Originally Posted by BLAZEN

Iraq was never the main threat, insurgant's are like gangsters only able to pulloff very localized attacks

The main threat to what?

Yes, the insurgents are very much like gangsters - but gangsters with the goal of preventing stable government.

Originally Posted by BLAZEN

With the muslim uprise, it will only get stronger and now there is going to be two muslim nation's with the ability for WMD's.

Your first claim is unverifiable and the couter argument that killing insurgents (as well as the disruption of the AQ networks) makes them weaker - is just as valid.

As for Muslim states with WMD. Who aer you referring to? Turkey's a Muslim nation so is Pakistan - there's two right there.

Originally Posted by BLAZEN

His comment's are just the begining of a nation funded war not a insurgent/ war like in iraq

You're saying the comments are the first shouts before Iran nukes Israel? Is Iran that irrational? Are they willing to exhange a nuked and destroyed Israel for a nuked and destroyed Iran? Seems a bad choice for them to make don't you think?

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Following are just a few of the many massacres committed by Jewish-Zionist terrorists in early of Israel, notably by the Zionist Hagana, Irgun and Stern Gang groups.

Don't expect any Hollywood films highlighting any of these massacres:

1. King David Hotel, July 22, 1946.
2. Sharafat, Feb. 7, 1951.
3. Deir Yassin, April 10, 1948.
4. Falameh, April 2, 1951.
5. Naseruddine, April 14, 1948.
6. Quibya, Oct. 14, 1953.
7. Carmel, April 20, 1948.
8. Nahalin, March, 28, 1954.
9. Al-Qabu, May 1, 1948.
10. Gaza, Feb. 28, 1955.
11. Beit Kiras, May 3, 1948.
12. Khan Yunis, May 31, 1955.
13. Beitkhoury, May 5, 1948.
14. Khan Yunis Again, Aug. 31, 1955
15. Az-Zaytoun, May 6, 1948.
16. Tiberia, Dec. 11, 1955.
17. Wadi Araba, May 13, 1950.
18. As-Sabha, Nov. 2, 1955.
19. Gaza Again, April 5, 1956.
20. Houssan, Sept. 25, 1956.
21. Rafa, Aug. 16, 1956.
22. Qalqilyah, Oct. 10, 1956.
23. Ar-Rahwa, Sept. 12, 1956.
24. Kahr Kassem, Oct. 29, 1956.
25. Gharandal, Sept. 13, 1956.
26. Gaza Strip, Nov. 1956.
26. Gaza Strip, Nov. 1956.

And the list goes on. . . .

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Yehida Massacare
December 13, 1947. Men of the Arab village of Yehiday (near Petah Tekva, the first Zionist settlement to be established) met at the local coffee house when they saw a British Army patrol enter the village, they were reassured especially that Jewish terrorists had murdered 12 Palestinians the previous day. The four cars stopped in front of the cafe house and out stepped men dressed in khaki uniforms and steel helmets. However, it soon became apparent that they had not come to protect the villagers. With machine guns they sprayed bullets into the crowd gathered in the coffee house. Some of the invaders placed bombs next to Arab homes while other disguised terrorists tossed grenades at civilians. For a while it seemed as if the villagers would be annihilated but soon a real British patrol arrived to foil the well organized killing raid. The death toll of 7 Arab civilians could have been much higher. Earlier the same day 6 Arabs were killed and 23 wounded when home made bombs were tossed at a crowd of Arabs standing near the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem. In Jaffa another bomb killed six more Arabs and injured 40.

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Khisas Massacare
December 18, 1947. Two carloads of Haganah terrorists drove through the village of Khisas (on the Lebanese Syrian border) firing machine guns and throwing grenades. 10 Arab civilians were killed in the raid.

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Qazaza Massacare
December 19, 1947. 5 Arab children were murdered when Jewish terrorists blew up the house of the village Mukhtar.

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Al-Sheikh Massacare
January 1, 1948. On that night around two hundred Zionists armed with hand grenades and machine guns sneaked into a small village called al-Shaikh village (5km South East of Haifa). The attackers came through the southern hills (most possibly from Nisher Jewish settlement which lies about 5Km south of the village). They attacked the houses on the edges of the village with hand-grenades and finished off with machine-guns killing around 40 of the Palestinians inhabitants of the village, mostly women and children.

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Deir Yassin Massacare
April 9-10, 1948. The massacre that became the symbol of Zionist aggression of the Palestinians as well as Zionist treachery. The Mukhtar of the village had agreed with the Zionists to provide information on the movement of strangers in the area as well as other intelligence provided their village is spared. The Zionists were not to keep their side of the promise. In an operation which was called Operation Unity, the Haganah cooperated with the Irgun and the Stern Gang is this operation. At 4:30 am on Friday 9th April 1948 surrounded the village which was overlooked by two Jewish settlements, Givat Shaul and Montefiore. For two days Zionist terrorists killed men women and children, raped women and stole their jewelry. A chilling account of the massacre is given by a Red Cross doctor who arrived at the village on the second day and saw himself -- the mopping up as one of the terrorists put it to him. He says that the mopping up had been done with machine guns, then grenades and finished of with knives. Women's bellies were cut open and babies were butchered in the hands of their helpless mothers. Around 250 people were murdered in cold blood. Of them 25 pregnant women were bayoneted in the abdomen while still alive. 52 children were maimed under the eyes of their own mothers, and they were slain and their heads cut off. The Jewish Agency and the commander of the British ground troops knew of the massacre while it was going on, however, no one intervened to stop it.

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Naser Al-Din Massacare
April 13-14, 1948. A contingent of Lehi and Irgon entered this village (near Tiberias) entered the village on the night of 13 April dressed as Arab fighters. Upon their entrance to the village the people went out to greet them, the terrorists met them with fire, killing every single one of them. Only 40 people survived. All the houses of the village were raised to the ground.

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Beit Daras Massacare
May 21, 1948. After a number of failed attempts to occupy this village, the Zionists mobilized a large contingent and surrounded the village. The people of Beit Daras decided that women and children should leave. As women and children left the village they were met by the Zionist army who massacred them despite the fact that they could see they were women and children fleeing the fighting.

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The Dahmash Mosque Massacare
July 11, 1948. After the Israeli 89th Commando Battalion lead by Moshe Dayan occupied Lydda, the Israelis told Arabs through loudspeakers that if they went into a certain mosque they would be safe. In retaliation for a hand grenade attack after the surrender that killed several Israeli soldiers, 80-100 Palestinians were massacred in the mosque, their bodies lay decomposing for 10 days in the midsummer heat. The mosque still stands abandoned today. This massacre spread fear and panic among the Arab population of Lydda and Ramle, who were then ordered to march out of these towns after they were stripped of all personal belonging by Israeli soldiers. Yetzak Rabin, Brigade Commander then says: - There was no way of avoiding the use of force and warning shots in order to make the inhabitants march ten to fifteen miles to the point where they met up with the legion-. Most of the 60,000 inhabitants of Lyda and Ramble came to refugee camps near Ramallah, around 350 lost their lives on the way through dehydration and son stroke. Many survived by drinking their own urine. The conditions in the refugee camps were to claim more lives.

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Dawayma Massacare
October 29, 1948. The following is the testimony of a soldier who participated in the occupation of the village of Dawayma (in the Haifa sub-district):-.. They killed between 80 to 100 Arab men women and children. To kill children they fractured their heads with sticks. There was not one home left without corpses .... One commander ordered a soldier to bring two women into a building he was about to blow up... Another soldier prided himself on having raped an Arab women before shooting her to death...-. The massacre was perpetrated by the 89th Battalion, the authors of Lydda massacre.

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Sharafat Massacare
February 7, 1951. Israeli soldiers crossed the armistice line to this village (5Km from Jerusalem) and blew up the houses of the Mukhtar and his neighbors. 10 were killed (2 elderly men, 3 women and 5 children) and 8 were wounded.

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Kibya Massacare
October 14, 1953. 9:30 PM about 700 regular Israeli troops attacked the border Jordanian village of Kibya, north west of Jerusalem. Using mortars, machine guns, rifles and explosives they blew up 42 houses, the local schools and the mosque. Every man woman and child found by these criminals was killed. 75 innocent villagers were murdered in cold blood. The raids were ordered by Ariel Sharon.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by shonuf

Following are just a few of the many massacres committed by Jewish-Zionist terrorists in early of Israel, notably by the Zionist Hagana, Irgun and Stern Gang groups.

Don't expect any Hollywood films highlighting any of these massacres:

1. King David Hotel, July 22, 1946.
2. Sharafat, Feb. 7, 1951.
3. Deir Yassin, April 10, 1948.
4. Falameh, April 2, 1951.
5. Naseruddine, April 14, 1948.
6. Quibya, Oct. 14, 1953.
7. Carmel, April 20, 1948.
8. Nahalin, March, 28, 1954.
9. Al-Qabu, May 1, 1948.
10. Gaza, Feb. 28, 1955.
11. Beit Kiras, May 3, 1948.
12. Khan Yunis, May 31, 1955.
13. Beitkhoury, May 5, 1948.
14. Khan Yunis Again, Aug. 31, 1955
15. Az-Zaytoun, May 6, 1948.
16. Tiberia, Dec. 11, 1955.
17. Wadi Araba, May 13, 1950.
18. As-Sabha, Nov. 2, 1955.
19. Gaza Again, April 5, 1956.
20. Houssan, Sept. 25, 1956.
21. Rafa, Aug. 16, 1956.
22. Qalqilyah, Oct. 10, 1956.
23. Ar-Rahwa, Sept. 12, 1956.
24. Kahr Kassem, Oct. 29, 1956.
25. Gharandal, Sept. 13, 1956.
26. Gaza Strip, Nov. 1956.
26. Gaza Strip, Nov. 1956.

And the list goes on. . . .

since we're tossing out stuff like your post....


Got any footage of Jewish terrorists praising God while they slice off Muslim's heads?

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shonuf, you are really fucking pathetic.

I guess you have photos of zionists cheering in NYC watching the towers fall?

[J. Fees]

According to sensitive CIA reporting from a "regular and reliable source," al-Qaida's number two, Zawahiri, visited Baghdad and met with Iraqi Vice President on Feb 3 of 98. The goal of the visit was to arrange for coordination between Iraq and Bin Laden, and to establish camps in Fallujah, Nasiriyah, and Iraqi Kurdistan under the leadership of Abdul-Aziz.

According to sensitive CIA reporting, the Saudi Arabian National Guard went on a kingdom-wide heightened state of altert in late Dec 2000 after learning that Saddam agreed to assist al-Qaida in attacking US and UK intrests in Saudi Arabia.

how much do you really trust CIA info?

[Hey Bubu]

No one has ever said that the Jewish goverment have been a bunch of saints.

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how much do you really trust CIA info?

Well, from reading that Oct 98 memo and tying that together with the fact that a few years later, when we liberated Iraq, we find out there were training camps set up in Fallujah and the Norther Kurdish region.

Doesn't that confirm that the intelligence was accurate?