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Old 11-08-05, 08:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Barack Obama: Hope for the democratic party?

Or the great white hype?

Obviously kidding of course but would like to see views from both liberals and conservatives on him.

And if u don't know....get to know http://www.obamaforillinois.com/
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Old 11-08-05, 08:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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do not know much about him.... but i saw him on the daily show yesterday and he seems to have a good sense of humor and seems to have the ballz the dems have been lacking for a minute...

but then again i thopught the same thing about howard dean after he showed emotion that he was crucified for.
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Old 11-08-05, 08:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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do not know much about him.... but i saw him on the daily show yesterday and he seems to have a good sense of humor and seems to have the ballz the dems have been lacking for a minute...

but then again i thopught the same thing about howard dean after he showed emotion that he was crucified for.
Yeh the american public is a fickle bunch huh
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Old 11-08-05, 09:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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he seems kinda left wing but id vote for him
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Old 11-09-05, 10:11 AM   #5 (permalink)
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All I know came from his speeach at the convention. He's very polished and well spoken - he wears the title Senator like it was made for him.

As for being a hope. He's gotten to the top of his game. We may elect Senators to the office of VP but I think Kennedy was the last Senator elected President... not sure who before him.... as a General Rule we elevate Governors.... (GW, Clinton, Carter etc etc)
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I don't know - he's been preaching this 'two americas' nonsense.
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He's not left wing enough for me, but I guess if I had to choose between him and most of the current party, I would chose to support him.
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He's not left wing enough for me,
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I think that he is very very well spoken. He is perfect for a presidential candidate in the future and Xian is right in that he wears the title Senator like no one else...actually, no one else since Kennedy, IMO.

At the moment, he is too young and too new. there is no way he would get elected within the next 2 presidential election terms, but he is definitely one of the future elites of the Democratic Party. We shall see!

Xian is right though...we do tend to elevate Governors, but I am surprised he forgot to mention one of his faves...Reagan... shame shame!!!
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I think that he is very very well spoken. He is perfect for a presidential candidate in the future and Xian is right in that he wears the title Senator like no one else...actually, no one else since Kennedy, IMO.

At the moment, he is too young and too new. there is no way he would get elected within the next 2 presidential election terms, but he is definitely one of the future elites of the Democratic Party. We shall see!

Xian is right though...we do tend to elevate Governors, but I am surprised he forgot to mention one of his faves...Reagan... shame shame!!!
shame indeed - how could I forget Ronnie Raygun

As for Barak - his speaking position was an announcement to the party and the wheels that this guy is the future. And he could very well be. He'll be interesting to watch - I think he has the polish to make everyone feel welcome, wanted and respected.... but we'll see if he does it.
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