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Old 02-03-06, 12:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Ok, someone had to make a post on it.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...home-headlines

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"The reaction in Muslim countries shocks me because it confirms the weight that radical Islam has acquired," said Patrick Chappatte, a cartoonist quoted in Le Temps newspaper in Switzerland. "A real totalitarianism is at work in the world and (it) wants to impose its views not only on Arab Muslims, but on the West. The same way that they veil women, Islamic radicals want to veil cartoons in the press."
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Arab leaders have demanded that European governments sanction the journalists they regard as blasphemers
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Na, it doesn't sound like they hate our freedom...


(I know, I didn't agree with it either...)
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Old 02-03-06, 02:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You know if they made the same kind of images about Jesus Pat Robertson et al would be screaming bloody murder, too.
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Old 02-03-06, 09:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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You know if they made the same kind of images about Jesus Pat Robertson et al would be screaming bloody murder, too.
You know, I think one of the caricatures was of Jesus...I haven't heard from P. Robertson yet.
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Old 02-03-06, 11:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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You know if they made the same kind of images about Jesus Pat Robertson et al would be screaming bloody murder, too.
A lunatic ranting Pat Robertson does not equate to thousands pouring into the streets chanting, "Death to Denmark."

You cannot compare the potential reaction of Christians to such a cartoon with the real reaction of the protestors in question... you think Christianity doesn't get caricaturized, scathingly, daily?

I didn't bother to look too far but the number of "anti' Jesus toons in this search is prolly quite high..... where are the protests that would be necessary to make your comparison valid?

http://images.google.com/images?svnu...=jesus+cartoon
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Old 02-03-06, 06:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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We said waa?

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7002239615

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Washington, D.C. (AHN) - The U.S. government on Friday spoke out against caricatures of Islam's Prophet Mohammed that were published in Europen newspapers.

State Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper says, "These cartoons are indeed offensive to the belief of Muslims. We all fully recognize and respect freedom of the press and expression, but it must be coupled with press responsibility. Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is not acceptable."
Is this some crappy attempt to curry favor with radical Muslims?
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Yeah what a wussout.

Note to muslims: STOP BEING SO FUCKING SENSITIVE!

How ridicuous is it for people to march in the street over a cartoon in some far away country?
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Old 02-03-06, 08:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
 
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this reminds me of that "artist" in 2000 that put elephant dung all over jesus and the virgin mary, and how bout that South Park episode where blood came spewing out from the virgin mary's ass. yea Adam, Robertson and all the christian freaks were marching in the street over that.
They hate our freedom because their religion allows very little, and people fear and hate what they don't understand.
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Old 02-04-06, 11:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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"Another shows the prophet standing on a cloud as he tells a group of suicide bombers that paradise has run out of the virgins said to await martyrs upon their death."



["I didn't bother to look too far but the number of "anti' Jesus toons in this search is prolly quite high..... where are the protests that would be necessary to make your comparison valid?"]

The very first one is of Jesus smoking pot.
No threatening of human life over this pic.


"State Department spokesman Kurtis Cooper says, "These cartoons are indeed offensive to the belief of Muslims. We all fully recognize and respect freedom of the press and expression, but it must be coupled with press responsibility. Inciting religious or ethnic hatreds in this manner is not acceptable."

"Sarkozy said he was surprised by the firing of Jacques LeFranc, managing editor of France Soir. The move was ordered by the paper's owner, an Egyptian-born Catholic named Raymond Lakah, and announced in a news release along with an apology "to the Muslim community and anyone who was shocked or angered."]

I don't think people should give in to these kind of threats.
I believe the more they do the more power the Muslim's will accure.
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its just their beliefs. I am not really condoning it but they are probly feeling quite attacked from the west and this is just another reason for hating. and, for a religion theirs has a lot right now.
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its just their beliefs. I am not really condoning it but they are probly feeling quite attacked from the west and this is just another reason for hating. and, for a religion theirs has a lot right now.
Rubbish, it's their demand the rest of the world cater to them. Which I'm sorry, if you live and work in the west you play by our rules. We play by their's in the middle-east. Albeit, Europeans haven't been too kind to Muslim immigrants, but this reaction isn't just isolated to European Muslims. Other than that, I see no other events that can validate your claims the west is 'attacking' Islam (please no Palestine thread deviations either). The west , and the US in particular, has come to the aid of Muslims around the world many times. Which I find odd that Osama and Al-Zwahri never mention.
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Now it's becoming very ridiculous.

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Rubbish, it's their demand the rest of the world cater to them. Which I'm sorry, if you live and work in the west you play by our rules. We play by their's in the middle-east.
Right, Our soldiers can't even drink alcohol over there but the Britts can.

They also made my brothers unit change there name.

I think they were the RazorBacks or something... pork is offensive

I think they still used it secretly

He also told me they would burn down the public bars and kill the hookers if they found out about them cause drinking and hooking is illegal. But, those same people that do the burning, fuck hookers and drink.

Now this isn't necessarily everybody in Iraq.
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its just their beliefs. I am not really condoning it but they are probly feeling quite attacked from the west and this is just another reason for hating. and, for a religion theirs has a lot right now.
May explain their attitudes but it sure condemns those in the streets burning effiges, embassies and calling for the death of the publishers as particularly intolerant and violent assholes now doesn't it?

Said another way - why do they get a pass when if Jews or Christians or Taosists or bears oh my did the same they'd be soundly condemned as racist, intolerant war mongerring hate bringing demons?

The behavior of those making the news is atrocious at best.
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A lunatic ranting Pat Robertson does not equate to thousands pouring into the streets chanting, "Death to Denmark."

You cannot compare the potential reaction of Christians to such a cartoon with the real reaction of the protestors in question... you think Christianity doesn't get caricaturized, scathingly, daily?

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http://images.google.com/images?svnu...=jesus+cartoon
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Man, what happened to the good 'ol cold war days? Fuck this fighting over religion, AGAIN!!!!

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