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Old 05-10-06, 03:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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didnt we remove Sadam to stop this? "1,100 civilian executions in Baghdad this month"

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BAGHDAD, Iraq - President Jalal Talabani said Wednesday that nearly 1,100 bodies were found in Baghdad last month, the victims of executions, and urged Iraq’s feuding factions to unite against surging crime and terrorism.Talabani said in a statement that the 1,091 bodies found in the Baghdad area in April were the tip of the iceberg.
“We feel shock, dismay and anger over the daily reports of the discovery of unidentified corpses and those of others killed” around the capital, he said.
If we add this to the number of corpses that are not discovered, or to similar crimes in other provinces, then the total number ... reflects that we are confronting a situation no less dangerous than the results of terrorist acts” such as car bombings and other attacks.
Scores of unidentified bodies turn up around the capital on a daily basis, many bound, tortured and shot execution style in what officials say is an unwavering tide of reprisal sectarian killings.
At least 3,525 Iraqis have been killed in war-related violence this year. These numbers include civilians, government officials, and police and security officials, and are considered only a minimum based on Associated Press reporting.
Religious violence
Sunni Arabs, who form the minority in the country but were once the power brokers under Saddam Hussein, say they are being targeted by so-called Shiite death squads operating either from within the Shiite-led Interior Ministry, or with the ministry’s tacit approval.
Shiites say thousands of their community have had to flee their homes to escape threats by Sunni extremists.
Leadership of the Interior Ministry — a key to securing the country against the steadily escalating wave of violence — has been a main stumbling block in the formation of the new national unity government.
Prime Minister-designate Nouri al-Maliki has said the interior and defense portfolios will be filled by independents unaffiliated with individual parties or militias.
But many lawmakers say that the next interior minister will likely be a Shiite, and several have floated the name of the current minister, Bayan Jabr, a member of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq.
Saying that behind every unidentified corpse is “an orphan, a starving father or a grieving wife,” Talabani, himself a Kurd, warned that these daily abductions and murders are stoking a “climate of suspicion among the sons of the nation.”
He said terrorists are capitalizing on the weakness of government institutions and stressed that the formation of the new government will help create a climate in which such attacks can be halted. But Talabani also called on all factions “to issue a fatwa (religious edict) condemning these crimes, irrespective of who perpetrated them.”
Bombing, shootings
Meanwhile, attacks continued around Iraq on Wednesday.
Near Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, gunmen opened fire on a bus carrying Iraqi civilians to work, then planted a bomb aboard the vehicle that exploded when rescue workers arrived. In all, 11 Iraqis were killed and six wounded.
Thirteen Iraqis were killed in other attacks, including four off-duty policemen in Ramadi, officials said.
Casualties from a suicide truck bombing in the northern city of Tal Afar on Tuesday night rose to 22 dead and 134 wounded. The U.S. military flew some of the wounded to other cities when the local hospital was overwhelmed.
Also Wednesday, American and Iraqi forces were searching for five people who escaped from a U.S. detention center in northern Iraq, the U.S. command.
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Old 05-10-06, 03:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Mission Accomplished! FUBAR Iraq so that they are too busy fighting each other while we bring more chaos to the area and take their oil
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Except that they're not pumping much oil because the terrorists are bombing the crap out of the pipeline on a regular basis.
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Mission Accomplished! FUBAR Iraq so that we have first dibs on their oil; blocking out China and Russia whilst preventing Saddam from switching over the sales of said oil to the EURO.
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Except that they're not pumping much oil because the terrorists are bombing the crap out of the pipeline on a regular basis.
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Except that they're not pumping much oil because the terrorists are bombing the crap out of the pipeline on a regular basis.
would have been cheaper to pay Saddam a billion bucks to play ball and be a client state
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While Saddam was a little aggressive towards neighbors and had a unhealthy hobby for torturing folks...

He was tolerant towards western styles, rock music, booze, women's rights (ie not having to cover themselves) , and Christians in iraq.

he's a jerkoff, but it drives me nuts when people compare his little wars and genicide to hitler's or stalin's.
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would have been cheaper to pay Saddam a billion bucks to play ball and be a client state
no kidding, doesn't sanctioning a country with that much oil kind of go against national interests?

we should have ended op desert storm with a very beneificial truce.
a little blood for oil would bother me less than the ass-raping i take at the local gas stop.
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While Saddam was a little aggressive towards neighbors and had a unhealthy hobby for torturing folks...

He was tolerant towards western styles, rock music, booze, women's rights (ie not having to cover themselves) , and Christians in iraq.

he's a jerkoff, but it drives me nuts when people compare his little wars and genicide to hitler's or stalin's.

he was a ruthless thug even if he didn't get his numbers as high as Hitler's

and his little wars came awfully close to controlling most of the world's proven oil reserves (Iraq, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia) - oil consumnig nations weren't to thrilled about that idea (killing Kurds and Iranians - that was alright though )
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While Saddam was a little aggressive towards neighbors and had a unhealthy hobby for torturing folks...

He was tolerant towards western styles, rock music, booze, women's rights (ie not having to cover themselves) , and Christians in iraq.

he's a jerkoff, but it drives me nuts when people compare his little wars and genicide to hitler's or stalin's.
The man was clearly a tirant in the region and a major pain in the ass. At the same time he had one hell of a system for keeping law and order in Iraq (thru torture and such of course) that seems to have been far more effective in that shithole than the system that we replaced him with.

The stinkbomb that we have laid out in Iraq today is going to be a long term problem that our kids will surely be sorting out long after our generation is in the old folks home pissing in our depends.
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The man was clearly a tirant in the region and a major pain in the ass. At the same time he had one hell of a system for keeping law and order in Iraq (thru torture and such of course) that seems to have been far more effective in that shithole than the system that we replaced him with.
this is very hard to dispute - pity it seems a natural order in the region
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