Pretty interesting character this Dov Zakheim is

[Cos]

Following Zakheim and Pentagon trillions to Israel and 9-11

Seems to have alot of power both in the US, and throughout Isreal. Any have any thoughts on the guy?

[PETA]

he owns the world - and the Muslims are pissed about it

[Cos]

i can imagine so... from reading more about this guy than i had previously known, he seems to have his hand in a little bit of everything, ranging from the soviets, to the americans, from isreal, to palenstine. Reading more thoroughly, ive come ot the conclusion that hes influenced many countrys that we need to invade certain countrys in the middle east, a major one he was influential about was Iraq, and next, is Iran.

[Nyteshade]

I lol at how this site claims to be accurate news.

The Anglo-American empire’s 9/11 atrocity: criminality’s zenith

Five years later, the planners, operatives and beneficiaries of the 9/11 murders, led by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, remain unpunished, their hubris undimmed, as they plan new campaigns of destruction, in the name of the original criminal act that they themselves carried out.

[Cos]

Originally Posted by Nyteshade

I lol at how this site claims to be accurate news.

The Anglo-American empire’s 9/11 atrocity: criminality’s zenith

I guess its what you interpret as truth, and what you dont. I could very well say the samething about your sources, again, why make a mockery, when you know your going ot get into the same battle everytime.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Cos

I guess its what you interpret as truth, and what you dont. I could very well say the samething about your sources, again, why make a mockery, when you know your going ot get into the same battle everytime.

Lol - just because a guy claiming he's been carried off to Venus several times can produce documents and references etc etc doesn't mean he's got an equally valid portion of the argument with the man who is calling him a fucking kook.

Reasonable minds do not disagree about who planned and carried out 9/11.

[Cos]

There are forces at work on this planet, that neither you nor I could comprehend. The human mind and soul are capable of anything and everything. We were created in his image, with his potential, and with his power in the underlining. People who are connected to those forces, that allow those forces to work in and for them, are the people that truely learn to tap into that root power and knowledge. Now this is where you decide what you consider Evil and Good, but its undeniable that these 2 forces exist. No one needs to have science reason that for them. With that said, and wether you agree or not is neither my concern, "to each his own" right? what is my concern though, is finding out the truth. Me not being open minded to explore the possibility that perhaps my goverment, or any other goverment isnt telling me the entire truth, is my right as a human being, and if i brush it off, i become accountable in the end. History will tell us that all men who have power, end up corrupt. Im not talking about 9/11 here, in fact, im drained on the issue, especially with the same comments from teh same people. If you deny the idea, you deny being open to human reality, b/c the reality of it is... there are evil men.

[Nyteshade]

Originally Posted by Cos

There are forces at work on this planet, that neither you nor I could comprehend. The human mind and soul are capable of anything and everything. We were created in his image, with his potential, and with his power in the underlining. People who are connected to those forces, that allow those forces to work in and for them, are the people that truely learn to tap into that root power and knowledge. Now this is where you decide what you consider Evil and Good, but its undeniable that these 2 forces exist. No one needs to have science reason that for them. With that said, and wether you agree or not is neither my concern, "to each his own" right? what is my concern though, is finding out the truth. Me not being open minded to explore the possibility that perhaps my goverment, or any other goverment isnt telling me the entire truth, is my right as a human being, and if i brush it off, i become accountable in the end. History will tell us that all men who have power, end up corrupt. Im not talking about 9/11 here, in fact, im drained on the issue, especially with the same comments from teh same people. If you deny the idea, you deny being open to human reality, b/c the reality of it is... there are evil men.

Indeed there are evil men, the most dangerous of which hold power. However, people give far too much credit to the government to pull off something of that magnitude without being ratted out. Also, if we assume that our government has no problems killing 3000+ people, why would they allow a few people to expose the details on da interweb?

[Hey Bubu]

Originally Posted by xian

Reasonable minds do not disagree about who planned and carried out 9/11.

HUSSEIN IN IRAQ RIGHT????

[Cos]

Originally Posted by Nyteshade

Indeed there are evil men, the most dangerous of which hold power. However, people give far too much credit to the government to pull off something of that magnitude without being ratted out. Also, if we assume that our government has no problems killing 3000+ people, why would they allow a few people to expose the details on da interweb?

Well lets think of the ratio first of all. How many officials to actual citizens? Officials actually involved to officials not involved? Citizens that witnessed any of the attacks, the people that werent part of it, pictures, video, sound, diffrent storys from diffrent people. You say that im giving to much credit to the goverment to pull off 9/11, but what im really saying is, they are already getting to much credit. 9/11 was sloppy, everything about it is sloppy IN MY OPINION. But really, id hate to see this turn into another 9/11 thread. Instead, id like to know more about this man, and any points of views on him. I think you could pretty much classify him as a spy, he has his hands in so many diffrent goverments its crazy that hes being trusted.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Cos

There are forces at work on this planet, that neither you nor I could comprehend. The human mind and soul are capable of anything and everything. We were created in his image, with his potential, and with his power in the underlining. People who are connected to those forces, that allow those forces to work in and for them, are the people that truely learn to tap into that root power and knowledge. Now this is where you decide what you consider Evil and Good, but its undeniable that these 2 forces exist. No one needs to have science reason that for them. With that said, and wether you agree or not is neither my concern, "to each his own" right? what is my concern though, is finding out the truth. Me not being open minded to explore the possibility that perhaps my goverment, or any other goverment isnt telling me the entire truth, is my right as a human being, and if i brush it off, i become accountable in the end. History will tell us that all men who have power, end up corrupt. Im not talking about 9/11 here, in fact, im drained on the issue, especially with the same comments from teh same people. If you deny the idea, you deny being open to human reality, b/c the reality of it is... there are evil men.

It indeed you're right to be a kook and to devote your limited time on the planet considering absurd conspiracy theories when you could have devoted that time to more rational pursuits.... and for that too you will be accountable in the end.

No one is denying that evil men exist. I'm denying it rational to consider that the evil men who carried out 9/11 are members of our government or are other than those who claimed to have been part etc.

An open mind is one thing but try not let it be so open that you fill it with shit.

[Cos]

Ignorance is bliss they say xian... enjoy your bliss while it lasts.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Cos

Ignorance is bliss they say xian... enjoy your bliss while it lasts.

And you enjoy that rabbit trail you're going down.

If you truly are concerned that you will be judged by how you spend your time on the planet and by investigating the truth you must accept that you have limited resources to doing so.

Investing those limited reources on a pipedream is wasteful of those resources.

Should one be faulted more for squandering those resources or for accepting an answer backed by volumes and volumes of documentable fact?

Your choice.

[Deff Gordon]

Originally Posted by Cos

There are forces at work on this planet, that neither you nor I could comprehend.

i hear they live in the Bermuda Triangle and that is how we communicate with the Melinium Council. When we communicate and a ship or a boat is traveling thru the Triangle, they get lost in the void.

[Cos]

Originally Posted by nitetripp

i hear they live in the Bermuda Triangle and that is how we communicate with the Melinium Council. When we communicate and a ship or a boat is traveling thru the Triangle, they get lost in the void.

No i was referring to those donuts that disappeared...
They are seeping out of your pours.