Conservatives say religion under attack

[tricky]

Religious conservative leaders, sensing declining alarm over same-sex marriage, are warning that the debate over homosexuality has prompted attacks on religious freedom.
By expanding the discussion from marriage to religious expression, social conservatives say they will reconnect with religious voters and religious leaders who don't necessarily view same-sex unions as a threat.
"There are a number of pastors that said, 'Look, we don't get involved in politics, I'm not going to get involved in this issue, I just want to preach the gospel,'" said Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council. "When they realize their ability to preach the gospel may very well be at stake, they may reconsider their involvement."
Perkins and others are building a case file of anecdotes where they say religious people have spoken out against gay marriage only to be punished. Perkins specifically cited the decision by Maryland Gov. Robert Ehrlich in June to fire his appointee to the Washington area transit board after the board member referred to homosexuals as "persons of sexual deviancy."
The board member, Robert J. Smith, said he was expressing his personal beliefs as a Roman Catholic.
The subject of religious expression will be the main theme of an Oct. 15 gathering in Boston of conservative religious and political leaders that will be broadcast to churches nationally.
Many social conservatives credit the furor in 2004 over gay marriage for mobilizing voters in key states who voted for President Bush. Since then, however, 16 states have passed initiatives or legislation banning same-sex marriage and several court decisions have upheld those bans.
"As the immediate threat has diminished so has the awareness," Perkins said.
Eight states have ballot initiatives in November to prohibit gay marriage, including some states with closely contested congressional races. Perkins said religious conservative groups planned to use direct mail and the Internet to alert voters about the stands candidates have taken on the marriage issue.
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I thought it was people from the FRC dragging gays from their pickup trucks, not gays dragging pastors....?

[Nyteshade]

These people really need to find something else to worry about. There are much more important things to take care of than a JP handing out marriage certificates to gays. Besides, according to Christian documentation, isn't it up to God to pass judgement?

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Nyteshade

Besides, according to Christian documentation, isn't it up to God to pass judgement?

Yes, your soul belongs to Jesus... but your ass belongs to the Corps..



Anyway, just because God passes judgment doesn't mean that we don't impose temporal judgment... in any event, it is not illegal to be gay or to engage in sex with some one of the same sex. Social Cons as entitled to their opinion as you and I are... even if we agree that they need to find something better to spend their time worry about

[tricky]

Originally Posted by xian

Yes, your soul belongs to Jesus... but your ass belongs to the Corps..



Anyway, just because God passes judgment doesn't mean that we don't impose temporal judgment... in any event, it is not illegal to be gay or to engage in sex with some one of the same sex. Social Cons as entitled to their opinion as you and I are... even if we agree that they need to find something better to spend their time worry about

but don't you think their concerns are a little far fetched? or am i just so unconcerned by this that I only see it as BS.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by tricky

but don't you think their concerns are a little far fetched? or am i just so unconcerned by this that I only see it as BS.

I am not sure what you're concerned about or how you see it. But, I was prety clear on my opinion of the subject of the article.

[Xodiac]

Yes, there is such a thing as freedom of religion, but if some of the teachings of that religion was to put you at idealogical odds with your empoyer, and thereby affects your ability to perform in the workplace they should be able to fire you.

For example, if you're a radical fundamentalist anti-semite Muslim speaking publicly about jihad against America, you probably should be fired from the department of homeland security.

[Adam D]

They've been saying religion is under attack for decades at the very least. Guess what, lots of people still think God is neat.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Adam D

They've been saying religion is under attack for decades at the very least. Guess what, lots of people still think God is neat.

that sounded neither black nor angry Adam

[Brandon_Fleeman]

christianity will dwindle out over time. just look at history. in another 2000 years...philosophy and religion will be completely different.

what happened to the greek gods...and egypts three gods? yup...nobody cares bout those anymore.

[kalamu]

the sooner christianity goes away, the better off we will all be

take catholicism with it too

[PETA]

Originally Posted by kalamu

the sooner christianity goes away, the better off we will all be

take catholicism with it too

wow..... just wow


do you always have such a concrete grasp of the subjects you aver to despise?

[kalamu]

oh stfu xian... you already knew i felt that way. i've never made a secret to voice my disgust for organized religion. don't act all surprised.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Brandon_Fleeman

christianity will dwindle out over time. just look at history. in another 2000 years...philosophy and religion will be completely different.

what happened to the greek gods...and egypts three gods? yup...nobody cares bout those anymore.

2004 there were about 1,098,366,000 catholics... that's just the catholics... that's about 1 in 6 people on the planet....if it dies out its going to take an awfully long time

from wiki Christianity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Demographics of Christianity

Distribution of of Christianity by countryThere are various reports as to the growth of Christianity today. According to the(U.S. Center for World Mission), Christianity is growing at about 2.3% annually, remaining steady with the increase in the world population. This makes Christianity the second fastest growing religion in the world.

Originally Posted by kalamu

oh stfu xian... you already knew i felt that way. i've never made a secret to voice my disgust for organized religion. don't act all surprised.

you missed my point... par for the course. Yes, I know you despise Christianity. I didn't act surprised about your opinion. I acted shocked by yet another demonstration of your feeble fund of knowledge of topics on which you hold such strong opinions.

you said

Originally Posted by kalamu

the sooner christianity goes away, the better off we will all be

take catholicism with it too

the latter is part of the former.... you talk about the subject you despise with all the intelligence and understanding of it that one should expect ... well... from you I guess.

[kalamu]

ah okay. i see what you are saying. i often put Roman Catholics on one side and all other Christians on the other and call one christians and the other catholics... mainly because i don't find many orthodox christians minding the Pope.

so let me edit my original statement by saying that the sooner that all religion goes away, the better off we will all be.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by kalamu

ah okay. i see what you are saying. i often put Roman Catholics on one side and all other Christians on the other and call one christians and the other catholics... mainly because i don't find many orthodox christians minding the Pope.

so let me edit my original statement by saying that the sooner that all religion goes away, the better off we will all be.

why would that be?

"He who does not believe in God will believe in anything."



(and "orthodox" tens to have a specific meaning other than you intended as well.... though I can't hinestly say I know what you intended I can say you didn't mean to say that a certain non-Catholic christian variant didn't follow the Pope. In any event - to address the substance of the comment you may have meant... Christians and non-Christians pay attention to what the Pope says. I'm not Catholic but I have great reverence for his opinions... I'm common in that regard)