stem cell researchers want to make Half Man/Half Cow

[molecule]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6121280.stm

UK scientists have applied for permission to create embryos by fusing human DNA with cow eggs.

Researchers from Newcastle University and Kings College, London, have asked the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority for a three-year licence.

The hybrid human-bovine embryos would be used for stem cell research and would not be allowed to develop for more than a few days.

But critics say it is unethical and potentially dangerous.

Stem cell research is one of the most promising areas of medical science.

You may begin to undermine the whole distinction between humans animals and humans
Calum MacKellar

They are the body's master cells and five-day-old embryos are packed with them - each with the potential to turn into any tissue in the body.

It is this ability which scientists want to harness to treat diseases such as Parkinson's Disease, strokes and Alzheimer's Disease.

To do that, they need to have access to thousands of embryos for research.

Short supply

The problem is that human eggs for research are in short supply and to obtain them women have to undergo surgery.

That is why scientists want to use cows' eggs as a substitute.

They would insert human DNA into a cow's egg which has had its genetic material removed and then create an embryo by the same technique that produced Dolly the Sheep.

The resulting embryo would be 99.9% human, the only bovine element would be DNA outside the nucleus of the cell.

It would though, technically be a chimera, part-human, part-animal.

The aim would be to extract stem cells from the embryo when it is six days old, before destroying it.

The quality and the viability of stem cells would then be checked to see if technique has worked.

The scientists also plan to examine the way the cells are reprogrammed after fusion to see if there are useful processes they could replicate in the laboratory.

Lead researcher Dr Lyle Armstrong said: "If we can learn from the egg cell how to make embryonic stem cells without having to use an animal egg at all then some day we may be able to cure diseases such as Parkinson's disease, or better still some of the age-related diseases which are creating such a burden on society."

Dr Stephen Minger, from King's College London, said: "The current state of the technology is such that literally hundreds of human ooctyes (eggs) from young women will be required to generate a single human embryonic stem cell line.

"Therefore we consider it more appropriate to use non-human oocytes from livestock as a surrogate.

"We feel that the development of disease-specific human embryonic stem cell lines from individuals suffering from genetic forms of neurodegenerative disorders will stimulate both basic research and the development of new medicines to treat these horrific brain diseases."

'Undermining humanity'

Professor Robin Lovell-Badge, head of Developmental Genetics, National Institute for Medical Research, said: "This is a very rational step: to learn what you can using animal eggs, which are readily obtainable, before moving on to valuable human eggs when or if this becomes necessary."

But some will argue the end does not justify the means.

Calum MacKellar, from the Scottish Council on Human Bioethics, said the research undermines the distinction between animals and humans and breaches human rights.

He said: "In the history of humankind animals and human species have been separated.

"In this kind of procedure you are mixing at a very intimate level animal eggs and human chromosomes, and you may begin to undermine the whole distinction between humans animals and humans.

"If that happens it might also undermine human dignity and human rights."

[Dionysos]

Just as long as they don't make a manbearpig, we should be ok.

[-m-]

So a controlled experiment where the crossing of human and animal genes is purely coincidental and not the aim of the experiment itself is undermining humanity? Oh the horror. Get a fucking grip professor MacDouchey.

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by Edwin Watson

(bad WoW joke... dont worry about it if you dont play, but it had to be said)

Well at least I know why you're never on here anymore.

[E-Nice]

Man-cow! great idea. science... always championing human progress.

I'd have one in my house over a robot anyday.

[Hey Bubu]

Fricking scientist, next thing you know we'll have a monkey with two asses!!!

[GreyArea]

E-nice and Porkchop did you guys even read the post...........jeez

Originally Posted by molecule

They would insert human DNA into a cow's egg which has had its genetic material removed and then create an embryo by the same technique that produced Dolly the Sheep.

The resulting embryo would be 99.9% human, the only bovine element would be DNA outside the nucleus of the cell.

It would though, technically be a chimera, part-human, part-animal.

Professor Robin Lovell-Badge, head of Developmental Genetics, National Institute for Medical Research, said: "This is a very rational step: to learn what you can using animal eggs, which are readily obtainable, before moving on to valuable human eggs when or if this becomes necessary."

[Hey Bubu]

Originally Posted by Squizzle

E-nice and Porkchop did you guys even read the post...........jeez

I still don't see the big deal. Morality is a social construct and it's not like they are trying to grow a human hybrid and if we take the religious model I believe that the quickening (the entrance of the soul into the body) happens after the first three months. So in my book it's all good.

I can see the counter argument but through evidence and evolution I see nothing morally wrong with this; and that whole argument of "If God wanted us to.."

Well with that logic, we wouldn't be flying or doing half the things we do and enjoy now.

[DREX]

a cow-boy?

thats nuts

[Nyteshade]

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[SmoothHeavy]

Originally Posted by Porkchop Avenger

Fricking scientist, next thing you know we'll have a monkey with two asses!!!

They wont stop at two, maybe at four, but four is one too many.... Wait, what?

[Hey Bubu]

[kalamu]

this is very ethically questionable but i also think it's fucked up that they think that somehow human eggs are more valuable than other animals eggs.

[Edit]

Yay for Minotaurs!

[Sinner]

Originally Posted by kalamu

i also think it's fucked up that they think that somehow human eggs are more valuable than other animals eggs.

Why? Aren't they? Lazy cows never invent or build anything.