3 more setbacks for conservatives

[Dionysos]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...MPLATE=DEFAULT

In a triple setback for conservatives, South Dakota rejected a law that would have banned virtually all abortions, Arizona became the first state to defeat an amendment to ban gay marriage and Missouri approved a measure backing stem cell research.


Nationwide, a total of 205 measures were on the ballots Tuesday in 37 states, but none had riveted political activists across the country like the South Dakota measure. Passed overwhelmingly by the legislature earlier this year, it would have been the toughest abortion law in the nation, allowing the procedure only to save a pregnant woman's life.


Lawmakers had hoped the ban would be challenged in court, provoking litigation that might eventually lead to a U.S. Supreme Court reversal of the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion.


Many voters said they viewed the measure - which lost by a 55-45 margin - as too intrusive, using language that failed to guarantee the rights of victims of rape and incest.

"I still feel like there is a gray area in that particular matter," said Lance Weber, 49, of Sturgis, S.D. "I feel there needs to be some exceptions."


Arizona bucked a strong national trend by refusing to change its constitution to define marriage as a one-man, one-woman institution. The measure also would have forbidden civil unions and domestic partnerships.


"We knew all along that once voters were informed about the true impact ... they would oppose this hurtful initiative," said Steve May, treasurer for Arizona Together, which organized opposition to the measure. "They made the right decision."

[kalamu]

Arizona not banning gay marriage isn't much of a setback when i read that four states voted in favor of banning it.

[Hey Bubu]

ZIIIIIIIIING

the kingdom is crumbling!!!

[-m-]

Let the fags marry each other and let people choose whether or not they want to reproduce. I don't see why this has to be so fucking hard.

[kalamu]

Originally Posted by Shitler

Let the fags marry each other and let people choose whether or not they want to reproduce. I don't see why this has to be so fucking hard.

because the neo-cons want to make sure that everyone follows their interpretation of the fake god's rules concerning who should marry

that and they don't want to have to battle any harder than they have to in order to get divorce lawyers when their spouses find out they're banging their secretary and/or tennis instructor

[la dj]

exactly

i cant understand why some people wont allow others to be happy because they believe an invisible man in the sky said so.

[kalamu]

*waits for xian to come in here talking about the fragile concept of marriage and how it will be torn down if homosexuals are allowed to marry*

[la dj]

^^^lmao!

[Funkenstein]

Originally Posted by kalamu

*waits for xian to come in here talking about the fragile concept of marriage and how it will be torn down if homosexuals are allowed to marry*

/eats popcorn and gets seat at internet Wimbledon

[kalamu]

Originally Posted by Rufus P. Funk

/eats popcorn and gets seat at internet Wimbledon

well c'mon Rufus you know that argument is bullshit. like once homosexuals marry all the hundreds of people out there who want to marry their hamsters will come out of the woodwork and demand to have the right to do so.

it's a stupid argument. all these homophobes just can't handle the fact that some guys like dick, they need to get over it.

[Funkenstein]

Originally Posted by kalamu

well c'mon Rufus you know that argument is bullshit. like once homosexuals marry all the hundreds of people out there who want to marry their hamsters will come out of the woodwork and demand to have the right to do so.

I wouldn't label Xian as a homophobe, by any means. It's times like this that "South Park" actually hits home (namely the episode with NAMBLA). The belief that one ill will beget another is only semi-valid. As long as there are LOGICAL and LEARNED people in office, then the GENERALLY MORALLY reprehensible acts will be turned away. The fact that Steve and Steve don't want what Steve and Eve have is perfectly acceptable as long as it doesn't infringe upon my rights.

Since it doesn't (nor will it raise my premium, LOL) I can endorse it without worry.

[molecule]

I like how Kinky put it. "Gays should have the right to be as miserable as the rest of us!"

[Satchel]

amen Rufus P

[Hey Bubu]

Joel, you also have to consider that it hits at core moral values of A LOT of people in the US, be the atheist, baptist, etc, etc..

Now I have an incling to write that your response to this will be something along the lines of, FUCK THEM AND THEIR SPAGHETTI TENTACLE GOD. If this is indeed thecase it further proves my point that you are no better than those you despise so much.

See sig

[MattM]

I have a friend who has this idea that evolution will eventually get rid of homosexuality and associated genes since gays can't really re-produce.