migrants contribute to the economy

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Udocumented migrants may pay sales taxes, but there's absolutely no way that they pay income taxes or property taxes because you have to be a legal citizen to be in the system to pay both.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by zcwilly

So you believe that everyone has a "right" to a free home, free healthcare, and free food no matter how lazy or uneducated they are. It is the government's responsibility to provide this to them, and it should be taken from people who earned it. I've got some news for you in case you haven't noticed.. Venezuela and Nicaragua got nothin' on us. Socialism is a failed system and history has proven that time and time again.

interesting to see that capitalism has brainwashed you
haha kidding
yes it is the governments right to provide free healthcare regardless of the person(s)
why do you think 1 in 5 americans has no healthcare
and 1 in 7 are functionally illiterate

healthcare is a right, not a private club.. that the the middle class can barely afford and the rich can pay for

venezuela's illiteracy rate has dropped enormously since chavez took office.
and for you economists, venezuela's growth is 10% the u.s. has about 2-4% usually.
regardless that is A LOT

to not, most of venezuela's growth has been in the private sector.

side note: chavez's social programs are great but his environmental policy needs real work

do you history, look at both sides, and then come back to me when you know what you are talking about.



if socialism failed in nicaragua, then why is ortega back in office?
haha

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by Shitler

Udocumented migrants may pay sales taxes, but there's absolutely no way that they pay income taxes or property taxes because you have to be a legal citizen to be in the system to pay both.

Captain Obvious to the rescue!

sorry wrong again,

there is a black market for getting paperwork, i.e. social security cards, birth certificates

do your research before you step to the plate please

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So how exactly are they undocumented workers if they in fact have documentation? Furthermore, what are the advantages of paying taxes if you aren't a legal citizen of this country? That doesn't make any sense.

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by Shitler

So how exactly are they undocumented workers if they in fact have documentation? Furthermore, what are the advantages of paying taxes if you aren't a legal citizen of this country? That doesn't make any sense.

mmm...good question... i guess you could say because they obtained the documents 'illegally' that makes them undocumented.


good question, the benefits are to the documented population/legal population and not to the undocumented migrants.

i.e. since the undocumented cannot vote, society blames them for their daily troubles
when the migrants although make a 300 million dollar deficit in social services they actually pay taxes and give back 600 million dollars to the state.

this same issue occured when the irish, germans, and italians came to the u.s. with people saying that they would not integrate to our economy, culture, etc.
which is/was not true

german actually almost became the official language of the u.s. back in the day due to the influx of german immigrants.

[I AM EL-NINO]

See I tried to tell you all about this guy.
He is a wolf in sheeps clothing and he is
bullshitting on this board right now.
Notice how he makes his socialistic comments and then tries to laugh it off?

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by I AM EL-NINO

See I tried to tell you all about this guy.
He is a wolf in sheeps clothing and he is
bullshitting on this board right now.
Notice how he makes his socialistic comments and then tries to laugh it off?

riiiiight
because denying healthcare, a human right to children, poor families, and the middle class is a great thing

haha

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Oh, okay, so let me get this straight; Everyone who is here illegally actually has a birth cert and a social security card that they purchased on the black market. They do this because even though they aren't legal citizens, they want to pay taxes because they're so patriotic. And even though they have the means to obtain health coverage through other channels seeing that they have documentation showing that they're legal citizens of this country, they go with inferior government sponsored programs where they don't have to show any sort of documentation to take advantage of. Also, each illegal immigrant out of the 30 million who are believed to be here generate approximately 20 million in tax revenue a year to help resolve the national deficit.

Got it.

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by Shitler

Oh, okay, so let me get this straight; Everyone who is here illegally actually has a birth cert and a social security card that they purchased on the black market. They do this because even though they aren't legal citizens, they want to pay taxes because they're so patriotic.

And even though they have the means to obtain health coverage through other channels seeing that they have documentation showing that they're legal citizens of this country, they go with inferior government sponsored programs where they don't have to show any sort of documentation to take advantage of.

Also, each illegal immigrant out of the 30 million who are believed to be here generate approximately 20 million in tax revenue a year to help resolve the national deficit.

Got it.

no,
they get fake social security cards because employers need them to have it to hire them, give or take.

just because you are a citizen of the u.s. does not mean you can afford health coverage.

the national deficit is acruing(sp?) from more then just the poor speculation that migrants do not pay taxes.

and that is for another discussion.

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Are you related to Idris by any chance?

[la dj]

joe mac - asshat of the year

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by la dj

joe mac - asshat of the year

haha
because..?

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by Shitler

Are you related to Idris by any chance?

no

[la dj]

Originally Posted by joe mac

haha
because..?

insert every post you've made <here>

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by la dj

insert every post you've made <here>

education has done you well i see.