Coup d'État in Venezuela: Made in the USA

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by xian

Whaaaa? Chavez and "2 irish" said Chavez didn't jail journalists. Well then. Case closed. You win. In other news OJ said OJ didn't do it... and a couple Jewish guys as well.

I was referring to any number of reports on documentable land seizures. I gave you links to reports on the issue. But if you care to translate your last sentence maybe I can retort. If not we'll rely on you simply offering nothing again.

The private sector has grown by 10%? Care to define what the private sector you refer to is? Care to refer to what growth means? Care to cite the base line against which growth is measured? Care to cite whose statistics you rely upon (are they Hugo's and 2 irish's stats?)

dude, give me a break
look it up online, common sense
"venezuelan economy and private sector growth"
google it, don't be an douch

irish film makers that were there when the u.s. led the coup de' tat with the rich, white, elite venezuelan minority against chavez

all you have to do is google:
"the revolution will not be televised"

p.s. have you ever visited venezuela?

[PETA]

Originally Posted by joe mac

dude, give me a break
look it up online, common sense
"venezuelan economy and private sector growth"
google it, don't be an douch

irish film makers that were there when the u.s. led the coup de' tat with the rich, white, elite venezuelan minority against chavez

all you have to do is google:
"the revolution will not be televised"

p.s. have you ever visited venezuela?

I've never visitid Venezuela. So what.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Venezuela

there is some growth in the economy but also in poverty

There is considerable income inequality. According to official sources, the percentage of poor and extremely poor among the Venezuelan population increased from 39.4% in 1995 to 48.1% in 2002. This increase has been due primarily to lower real wages earned by employees and increased unemployment. It has also been argued that because of recent census efforts many more poor and extremely poor people are now being included in economic analyses.

growth of the economy appears to be tied to the price of oil - which as we are all aware shot through the roof for the period you're talking about

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications...k/geos/ve.html

Venezuela continues to be highly dependent on the petroleum sector, accounting for roughly one-third of GDP, around 80% of export earnings, and over half of government operating revenues. Government revenue also has been bolstered by increased tax collection, which has surpassed its 2005 collection goal by almost 50%. Tax revenue is the primary source of non-oil revenue, which accounts for 53% of the 2006 budget. A disastrous two-month national oil strike, from December 2002 to February 2003, temporarily halted economic activity. The economy remained in depression in 2003, declining by 9.2% after an 8.9% fall in 2002. Output recovered strongly in 2004-2005, aided by high oil prices and strong consumption growth. Venezuela continues to be an important source of crude oil for the US market. Both inflation and unemployment remain fundamental problems.

so the growth you speak of was enough to offset one off those declining years and climb back slightly from another....

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by xian

I've never visitid Venezuela. So what.

dun dun dun

go to venezuela, talk to some people and then come back to me.
when you have something to talk about.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by joe mac

dun dun dun

go to venezuela, talk to some people and then come back to me.
when you have something to talk about.

I've never been in a Turkish prison either Joey but I can be reasonably certain I don't care to go there either.

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by xian

I've never been in a Turkish prison either Joey but I can be reasonably certain I don't care to go there either.

what?
oooookkkkk, riiiight.

so what does a turkish prison have to do with visiting venezuela?

did you know only 10% of americans have passports?

[PETA]

Originally Posted by joe mac

what?
oooookkkkk, riiiight.

so what does a turkish prison have to do with visiting venezuela?

did you know only 10% of americans have passports?

A Turkish prison is as easily identifiably a bad place to visit as Venezuele - even if we can agree that one would be worse.

WTF does American passport ownership have to do with the price of tea in China anyway?

I betcha that Venezuelan and Chinese passport ownership is even lower.

[kalamu]

Originally Posted by xian

WTF does American passport ownership have to do with the price of tea in China anyway?

i just checked with God and he said it doesn't have anything to do with the price of tea in china but that it had some correlation to the price of garbanzo beans in India.

just FYI.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by kalamu

i just checked with God and he said it doesn't have anything to do with the price of tea in china but that it had some correlation to the price of garbanzo beans in India.

just FYI.

hands the "not funny" crown to kalamu

[kalamu]

aw shucks

[joe mac]

Originally Posted by xian

A Turkish prison is as easily identifiably a bad place to visit as Venezuele - even if we can agree that one would be worse.

WTF does American passport ownership have to do with the price of tea in China anyway?

I betcha that Venezuelan and Chinese passport ownership is even lower.

I studied and lived there
it's not all that bad
and the women are beautiful