First the Middle East...next stop for the U.S.A. "terror" train...AFRICA

[alvin]

WORLD WAR THREE = WAR against the THIRD WORLD

Direct from the White House
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0070206-3.html

What the Army has to say
http://www.army.mil/-news/2007/02/07...-on-continent/


The US media
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,250538,00.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020600410.html

Australian media
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...34-661,00.html

African media
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article20136

So where is the additional military manpower going to come from?

Still think H.R. 393 is out of the question?

[alvin]

Why Africa you ask??

oil.



Oil in Sudan
http://www.sudantribune.com/spip.php?article20132

http://www.energybulletin.net/994.html

The U.S has to get there before China does.
http://www.hrw.org/reports/2003/sudan1103/26.htm


This article states the TRUE reasoning behind this.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2402444.shtml

The impending announcement that the Department of Defense will create a separate regional command to focus on Africa is a good first step in helping to secure American interests on the resource-rich continent, now hotly-contested territory in the war on terrorism.

What "rich resources" do the mean? People or Oil?

Africa's vast mineral wealth is a critical part of America's economic future. Already we import some 15 percent of our annual oil requirements from Africa, which also possesses vast supplies of gold, diamonds, and rare minerals used in the production of the computers and communications equipment that fuel our economy. Seeking these resources, China has increasingly developed its economic investments and fostered new relationships with the warlords and dictators that control access to them.

First the human resources from Africa were needed to fuel the economy in the past and now even more than ever in this technological age Africa is still the SOURCE.

[Keith P]

What are you smoking? We should've been in Sudan b4 any present conflict this administration is pursuing.

[Nyteshade]

We've been in Africa for 3 years already. Shut up.

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[alvin]

Originally Posted by Keith P

What are you smoking? We should've been in Sudan b4 any present conflict this administration is pursuing.

Been in the Sudan for what? "Humanitarian" reasons???

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by alvin

Been in the Sudan for what? "Humanitarian" reasons???

Which we're not, despite what's going on in Darfur.


?????

[TheAmazon]

Originally Posted by Keith P

What are you smoking? We should've been in Sudan b4 any present conflict this administration is pursuing.

true, but displaced poor farmers and village folks don['t translate well into money for people's bottom line.

[alvin]

Originally Posted by zerojunkie

Which we're not, despite what's going on in Darfur.


?????

Give "humanitarian" aid, while the US(and other "developed" nations) steal and plunder resources from them to prop up their economies without "developing" the infastructure of the nation(s) supposedly lent a helping hand.

The issue of genecide in Sudan is a side issue to get the American investments/corporate interests latched onto those precious resources... all done with the help of the military.

Gotta keep the empire running...

[PETA]

Originally Posted by alvin

Give "humanitarian" aid, while the US(and other "developed" nations) steal and plunder resources from them to prop up their economies without "developing" the infastructure of the nation(s) supposedly lent a helping hand.

The issue of genecide in Sudan is a side issue to get the American investments/corporate interests latched onto those precious resources... all done with the help of the military.

Gotta keep the empire running...

lol - The US is the evil actor in Sudan.... er... the evil non-actor in Sudan... er.... whichever... the US is the evil actor where ever it acts

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by TheAmazon

true, but displaced poor farmers and village folks don['t translate well into money for people's bottom line.

Funny(not funny haha, but interesting) note: in the mid-90s, Bin Laden was a poor farmer in Sudan...especially after the Sudanese gov't took back all the land they gave him in exchange for the work his construction company did.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

Funny(not funny haha, but interesting) note: in the mid-90s, Bin Laden was a poor farmer in Sudan...especially after the Sudanese gov't took back all the land they gave him in exchange for the work his construction company did.

Funny, not haha, but interesting... As I understood it - when OBL got booted from Sudan he got royally fleeced and bent over a chair by the Sudanese gov't. There was even a suggestion that he was on the cusp of turning toward just being a gentleman farmer in the Sudan but for American insistence that he be expelled (I think that a stretch but the argument passes, imo, the giggle test)... anyway.... interesting even if not all that important or relevent

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by xian

Funny, not haha, but interesting... As I understood it - when OBL got booted from Sudan he got royally fleeced and bent over a chair by the Sudanese gov't. There was even a suggestion that he was on the cusp of turning toward just being a gentleman farmer in the Sudan but for American insistence that he be expelled (I think that a stretch but the argument passes, imo, the giggle test)... anyway.... interesting even if not all that important or relevent

He was considering leaving/disbanding Al-Qaeda at one point during his stay in Sudan, but ultimately decided otherwise. There's a reason AQ went quiet for a couple years after Yousef bombed the WTC, and it wasn't because they were hiding. Bin Laden was seriously contemplating becoming a farmer on the ~1million acres the Sudanese gov't had given him as payment for construction work. The expulsion didn't come until after he had decided to continue doing the AQ work(and yes, the US was actively behind expelling him from Sudan. They even suggested Afghanistan as his destination). But yes, you are correct that the Sudanese gov't fleeced him on a level most mobsters would be proud of.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by Dionysos

Actually he was considering leaving Al-Qaeda at one point during his stay in Sudan, but ultimately decided otherwise. There's a reason AQ went quiet for a couple years after Yousef bombed the WTC, and it wasn't because they were hiding. Bin Laden was seriously contemplating becoming a farmer on the ~1million acres the Sudanese gov't had given him as payment for construction work. The expulsion didn't come until after he had decided to continue doing the AQ work. But yes, you are correct that the Sudanese gov't fleeced him on a level most mobsters would be proud of.

So then the story I heard was mostly accurate... any info on what swayed him to stick it out and kill people instead of feed them?

[Dionysos]

Originally Posted by xian

So then the story I heard was mostly accurate... any info on what swayed him to stick it out and kill people instead of feed them?

It basically boils down to 2 things:
1)Zawahiri's influence
2)American soldiers' permanent bases in Saudi Arabia.