U.S. + Eugenics = Nazi's

[alvin]

The Nazi ideas of the "perfect race" and "unfit races" started right here in the good old U.S.A.
http://www.waragainsttheweak.com/off...com/index.html

But the concept of a white, blond-haired, blue-eyed master Nordic race didn't originate with Hitler. The idea was created in the United States, and cultivated in California, decades before Hitler came to power. California eugenicists played an important, although little-known, role in the American eugenics movement's campaign for ethnic cleansing.

The ELITE minds that crafted the eugenics programs

Eugenics would have been so much bizarre parlor talk had it not been for extensive financing by corporate philanthropies, specifically the Carnegie Institution, the Rockefeller Foundation and the Harriman railroad fortune. They were all in league with some of America's most respected scientists from such prestigious universities as Stanford, Yale, Harvard and Princeton. These academicians espoused race theory and race science, and then faked and twisted data to serve eugenics' racist aims.

The Harriman railroad fortune paid local charities, such as the New York Bureau of Industries and Immigration, to seek out Jewish, Italian and other immigrants in New York and other crowded cities and subject them to deportation, confinement or forced sterilization.

The Rockefeller Foundation helped found the German eugenics program and even funded the program that Josef Mengele worked in before he went to Auschwitz.

If you think Hitler was the "mastermind" behind his "master race" plans...THINK again...

The superior species the eugenics movement sought was populated not merely by tall, strong, talented people. Eugenicists craved blond, blue-eyed Nordic types. This group alone, they believed, was fit to inherit the Earth. In the process, the movement intended to subtract emancipated Negroes, immigrant Asian laborers, Indians, Hispanics, East Europeans, Jews, dark- haired hill folk, poor people, the infirm and anyone classified outside the gentrified genetic lines drawn up by American raceologists.

Another in the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute's complex of eugenics institutions was the Institute for Brain Research. Since 1915, it had operated out of a single room. Everything changed when Rockefeller money arrived in 1929. A grant of $317,000 allowed the institute to construct a major building and take center stage in German race biology. The institute received additional grants from the Rockefeller Foundation during the next several years. Leading the institute, once again, was Hitler's medical henchman Ernst Rüdin. Rüdin's organization became a prime director and recipient of the murderous experimentation and research conducted on Jews, Gypsies and others

http://medinfo.ufl.edu/other/histmed/stoyan/index.html

http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea.../lynchburg.asp

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in614728.shtml

The Fernald School, and others like it, was part of a popular American movement in the early 20th century called the Eugenics movement. The idea was to separate people considered to be genetically inferior from the rest of society, to prevent them from reproducing.

Eugenics is usually associated with Nazi Germany, but in fact, it started in America. Not only that, it continued here long after Hitler's Germany was in ruins.

At the height of the movement - in the ‘20s and ‘30s - exhibits were set up at fairs to teach people about eugenics. It was good for America, and good for the human race. That was the message.

But author Michael D'Antonio says it wasn't just a movement. It was government policy. “People were told, we can be rid of all disease, we can lower the crime rate, we can increase the wealth of our nation, if we only keep certain people from having babies,” says D’Antonio

http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomli...rile_past.html

At the turn of the 20th century, the American industrial machine was moving full steam ahead, fueled by a burgeoning working class and an endless influx of immigrants, mostly from southern and eastern Europe. In an age of invention, scientists, doctors and economists were elevated to elite status, as they churned out the latest economic and social theories of the day. Eventually, Social Darwinism gave way to a new philosophy, Progressivism

In the early 1900s, prominent American biologists Charles Davenport and Harry Laughlin, influenced by Galton, led other scientists and physicians in developing a radical brand of eugenics that argued for government to weed out degenerate members of the proletariat. Under the auspices of "social responsibility," involuntary sterilizations, genetic manipulation, race segregation and imprisonment were justified in order to save America from the high cost of treating defective individuals, who were responsible for the nation’s social ills. In addition, immigration of "undesirables" could be curbed through selective genetic screening and strict immigration quotas.

During that time, Congress also got into the act. Hearings were held by the Committee on Immigration and Naturalization in the House of Representatives to investigate claims that eastern European countries were intentionally "exporting" degenerates to the America. Effective lobbying by Harry Laughlin, an "expert agent" for the committee, led to the passage of anti-immigration laws with strict country quotas that favored northern and western European nations.5

If we are not careful, the current push in this country for biometrics -- the use of genetic markers, facial recognition, hand-scanning, fingerprint scanning and eye scanning for identification purposes -- may provide a database for future generations who, ignorant of the past, may be condemned to repeat it.

http://rethinkingschools.org/archive.../eugenic.shtml

Eugenics fed off of the fears of white middle and upper class Americans. In the early 20th century, the United States was experiencing rapid social and economic change. As the nation became more industrial and urban, millions of poor immigrants from southern and eastern Europe flocked to the United States seeking a better life. Simultaneously, thousands of African Americans were beginning a great migration to northern cities from the Jim Crow South. Competition for jobs intensified existing frictions along class and racial lines.

Eugenicists used a flawed and crude interpretation of Gregor Mendel's laws on heredity to argue that criminality, intelligence, and pauperism were passed down in families as simple dominant or recessive hereditary traits. Mainline eugenicists (those eugenicists who were explicitly preoccupied with issues of race), believed that some individuals and entire groups of people (such as Southern Europeans, Jews, Africans, and Latinos) were more predisposed to the "defective genes." Charles Davenport, a leader in American eugenics, argued for laws to control the spread of "inferior blood" into the general population. He told an international gathering of scholars "that the biological basis for such laws is doubtless an appreciation of the fact that negroes and other races carry traits that do not go well with our social organization."

[alvin]

http://www.sptimes.com/News/111101/W...an_weeds.shtml

They were hemophiliacs and hobos, the physically deformed and the diabetic, manic-depressives and the mentally retarded -- 60,000 of them, almost all poor, rural, white, uneducated and young. Some were as young as 8 years old.

They had one more thing in common: The government despised their kind. They were considered "manifestly unfit" to give birth, so 35 states forcibly sterilized them.

This was the linchpin of eugenics, the science of weeding out "unfit" citizens to create a better breed of men and women. It started in 1907 and was a full-fledged movement by the 1920s. Luminaries from President Theodore Roosevelt to birth control pioneer Margaret Sanger embraced it. So did the U.S. Supreme Court. So did Nazi Germany.

In the 1930s and early 1940s, the Nazis ordered 375,000 people sterilized. At the Nuremberg Trials, they pointed to U.S. laws as their inspiration.

Forced sterilizations continued in the United States as recently as 1979. The most outrageous rhetoric of eugenics has largely vanished, but debates over similar issues still bubble. Should we genetically engineer children? How do we navigate the minefields of the human genome project? Should we clone humans?

The justices ruled 8-1 for Virginia; famed jurist Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote the majority opinion. He said sterilizing Carrie Buck would prevent society from being saddled with others like her. A leading authority on eugenics had examined Buck's family history and described the clan as part of "the shiftless, ignorant and worthless class of anti-social whites of the South."

In the 1930s, sterilization laws blossomed across the country. In Germany, the Nazis created their own law, modeled on American legislation. They ultimately gave Harry Laughlin, a leader of America's eugenics movement, an honorary degree. At Nuremberg, they cited the Buck case in their defense.

By 1979, states had sterilized some 60,000 people, not counting thousands of blacks and Indians whose sterilizations weren't tracked by official records

http://clem.mscd.edu/~princer/ant440b/paper_04.htm

In one town alone, Barceloneta, 20,000 women were sterilized between 1956 and 1976 (Garcia 1985). There were no restrictions on age, health or the number of children one already had. One woman from Barceloneta recounts the story of how she saw a woman going into the hospital with a suitcase and was curious. She said, innocent of what was going on there, that she wanted to go to the clinic with a suitcase and stay too. So she asked and they told her all she had to do was agree to a procedure -- so she did -- to get a stay in the hospital (Garcia 1985). By 1958, the total birth rate of Puerto Rico was on the decline and varying geographically, 10-42% of the women in towns and cities were sterilized (Garcia 1985).

Note: Reminiscent of the current Texas HPV controversy on "forced vaccinations"

Not only was this island used as a testing ground for a population control program, but as a laboratory for the pill as well. In 1956, the first birth control pills were tested on Puerto Rican women living in government housing-they were 20 times stronger than the pills used in the U.S. 30 years later (Garcia 1985). Many women became ill, and as Garcia has shown, were completely in the dark that they were being used as guinea pigs for a potentially dangerous drug. Nurses, like doctors, are influential and respected persons in Puerto Rican society. They came to the doors of these women and told them to take these new pills as part of a family planning program -- again the influence of a person of status was used to target a specific portion of the population (Garcia 1985). Dr. Helen Rodriguez-Trias confirms the allegations that Puerto Rican women were unknowingly used as a "laboratory for development of birth control technology" (Garcia 1985). The medical community and pharmeceutical companies have contributed and fueled, probably more than any other group, the eugenics program in Puerto Rico.

As mentioned previously for birth control measures to be eugenic in purpose, they have to be targeted to a specific portion of the population. Evidence to support the fact that the sterilization program in Puerto Rico was indeed aimed at the poor and uneducated, a class of people, has been cited. "People applying for housing, or welfare, or food stamps, find themselves receiving orientation, education, and motivation towards sterilization" and "those that suffer the most from a condition of excess population are the groups with the least income and smallest amount of education" (Big Mama Rag 1975 p.3) This program was operated in an open fashion and a recruitment campaign was admitted to and it was said that 10,000-12,000 births were prevented, with the goal of 100% of childbearing age women to be sterilized. This is an incredible and clearly genocidal comment (Garcia 1985). By 1980, Puerto Rico had the highest incidence of female sterilization in the world. In 1977, Dr. Richard T. Ravenholt, a population officer for AID stated, "if U.S. goals were met, one-fourth of the world’s women would be sterilized to prevent revolutions that would interfere with multinational corporations financial success" (Garcia 1985).

[alvin]

http://www.konformist.com/2000/rudyg.htm

Long before Hitler created German laws requiring forcible sterilization, euthanasia and his ultimate Eugenics program, the Holocaust, the pioneers of Eugenics who originated Hitler's ideas were British and American scientists. With the financial backing of some of the world's most famous industrialists like John D. Rockefeller, Cecil Rhodes, Andrew Carnegie and Henry Ford, they were able to promote Eugenics to an amazingly successful degree. Thanks to a century of propaganda distorting and disguising their real purposes, the influential foundations these men endowed with their wealth are viewed as humanitarian, even as mankind's hope for salvation.

By the 1920's many States had passed Eugenics laws requiring involuntary sterilization of mental defectives. Tens of thousands of African Americans, Native Americans and other minorities were deliberately mislabeled as defectives and then sterilized by our government in order to prevent them from reproducing.

Most of those sterilized were actually normal. By the 1930's States were proposing even more extreme policies including compulsory euthanasia for chronic criminal behavior, for the mentally ill and for those with certain diseases. Hitler publicly acknowledged that he directly modeled the Eugenics laws of Nazi Germany on those of the United States.

Due to revelations about the Holocaust that surfaced after WWII the Eugenics movement was forced to reinvent itself under various fronts. Nevertheless, it has continued its work to the present day with programs like the Human Genome Project, the Center for Disease Control, various "humanitarian" Population Councils within the UN and in private organizations such as the Rockefeller Foundation, The Pioneer Fund and the Manhattan Institute. The ideas and goals of Eugenics are behind issues as diverse as the ethnic cleansing in Bosnia, the African AIDs crisis and genetically manipulated seeds being forced on farmers.

Giuliani routinely admits his policy ideas are taken directly, almost verbatim, from the Manhattan Institute, a CIA initiated "think tank" funded by far right Eugenics advocates like the Pioneer Fund and corporations such as the Rockefeller's Chase Bank which have historically promoted the Eugenics agenda. The Manhattan Institute has sponsored research projects and books like the Bell Curve, Fixing Broken windows and numerous others which propose the idea that blacks are mentally inferior. While the Manhattan Institute is not publicly advocating mass extermination or mass relocation of minorities the policies it does promote are mostly about targeting black and Latino inner City populations in such a way as to make relocation an attractive option and elimination a day to day reality. They take full credit along with Mayor Giuliani for the City's aggressive policing, it's stop and frisk policy, the remedial budget cuts at CUNY, the ending of welfare, the destruction of SRO's and low-income housing, attempts to eliminate rent control, the workfare program, the cleansing of the streets of homeless people, bulldozing community gardens, the privatization of parks, schools and hospitals and many other controversial ideas. Economic improvement is the attractive facade of these policies. Behind that facade are assumptions about minorities that are fundamentally racist.

The corporations, banks and far right race-obsessed groups that fund the Manhattan Institute today were in many cases backing Hitler's rise to power just 70 years ago. They are also the same groups behind Giuliani's Senate campaign and GW Bush's Presidential bid. Chase Bank, the Manhattan Institute's main sponsor, has publicly apologized on numerous occasions for its avid support of Hitler and its enthusiasm to turn over Jewish Bank accounts to the Nazis before they were ever asked to do so. Chase and other U.S. banks helped Hitler seize the gold reserves of European nations that had been deposited in their vaults in order to fund the German military buildup. When Hitler invaded Europe his troops were flying planes, driving tanks and firing ammunition manufactured by German subsidiaries of U.S. companies like GM, Ford and Chrysler, all fueled by the German branch of Standard Oil, The Rockefeller's oil company.

[djetaine]

:yawn:

[alvin]

Originally Posted by djetaine

:yawn:

If you want the latest on Anna Nicole...look elsewhere.

[david austin]

Originally Posted by alvin

If you want the latest on Anna Nicole...look elsewhere.

its better than the same recycled crap you post every week.

[alvin]

Originally Posted by david austin

its better than the same recycled crap you post every week.

stay tuned to WFAA/CBS/CNN/Galavision/ESPN/TIME-WARNER/ClearChannel/etc. for your regularly scheduled "programming".



One persons "crap" is another persons enlightenment.

[alvin]

What's the old saying...

"Sometimes TRUTH is worse/stranger than FICTION"...

[alvin]

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45/026.html

The Pioneer Fund has a long history with the eugenics movement. Eugenics was created by the English in the late 19th century. "They used it to try to control reproduction among the Irish, who were thought to threaten Anglo-Saxon society with their low intelligence and high birth rate. In the early 20th century the idea of genetic management caught on in the United States, where Italians, Asians, and especially Jews were identified as the oversexed and slow-witted. The partnership of eugenics and political power reached full flower with the rises of Germany's Third Reich. For a time it seemed that Adolf Hitler might accomplish his goal of creating a world in which the biologically worthy would breed prodigiously and the unworthy would be kept from contaminating the gene pool."

Harry Laughlin, the first president of the Pioneer Fund, "was a well known eugenicist who in 1924 was instrumental in pushing through legislation blocking US entry to Jews fleeing pogroms in Russia. Before Congress, he testified that IQ data proved that 83 percent of Jewish immigrants were born feeble-minded and therefore were a threat to the nation's economy and genetic makeup. Laughlin subsequently lobbied to keep these barriers in place, successfully cutting off sanctuary for Jews seeking refuge from the Third Riech."

In 1922 Laughlin wrote the model Eugenical Sterilization Law, which was made law in 30 states and "resulted in the forced sterilization of tens of thousands of people in the United States. The law also served as the basis for the Nazi program that resulted in the forced sterilization of at least 2 million people. For his contributions in eugenics, Laughlin recieved an honorary degree from the University of Heidleberg, in Germany, in 1936."

In 1937 Laughlin helped Wickliffe Draper found the Pioneer Fund and became its first director. The fund has promoted policies similar to those of Nazi Germany. In its charter the Pioneer Fund stated its purpose was to increase the reproduction of citizens who "are deemed to be descended predominately from white persons who settled in the original thirteen states prior to the adoption of the Constitution of the United States." "To limit mixing with the unworthy, Pioneer Fund grant recipients have lobbied for restrictive immigration policies and promoted various forms of segregation. To rid the world of 'undesirables' - and their offspring - some grant recipients have suggested sterilization or even extermination."

[david austin]

as always... you just seem to have it all figured out.

now back to DDMs resident foil producers regularly scheduled programming

this weeks lineup includes:

bush = hitler
us govt = nazis
9.11 conspiracy theories
how oil prices are directly related to a less than decade old 'war on terror'

be sure and catch next weeks lineup... OF THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN!!!

i cant wait for the truth ive never known!!!

[alvin]

Originally Posted by david austin

as always... you just seem to have it all figured out.

now back to DDMs resident foil producers regularly scheduled programming

this weeks lineup includes:

bush = hitler
us govt = nazis
9.11 conspiracy theories
how oil prices are directly related to a less than decade old 'war on terror'

be sure and catch next weeks lineup... OF THE SAME THING ALL OVER AGAIN!!!

i cant wait for the truth ive never known!!!

What's "tin foil" about this post?

It's always more convienent to try to "kill the messenger" than to absorb the message.

If you have a problem with this or any other "tin foil" post...nothing I can do about that.

You better run, those Anne Nicole updates are about to start...

[david austin]

thing is i do read what you post most of the time.

IMO you are a classic example of someone so set in their ways that they refuse to see any side they dont believe in. people like you enjoy finding every tiny minute detail and developing your own opinion. its all good alvin... thats what makes you, you... and me, me. my disdain isnt the fact that you have an opinion... its the fact that your opinion is so concrete and set in stone that its pointless even trying to bring facts in from the other side of the arguement.

i am willing to give points where i think they are due. you however are not. there have been MANY occasions where your sources have been shot down and your theories have been thoroughly debunked yet you consistently refuse to give an inch. your retorts are filled with grammatical twists and specifically chosen dictionary examples used to fit your viewpoint. you try to disprove anything and everything by giving examples literally 180 degrees to the opposite. there is a middle ground to just about everything you post here... you just refuse to hear the medium. many of the links and sources posted by A&P regulars are glazed over and not even responded to... all while you formulate your next rant against america. its a weekly thing with you. its like you have this internal clock that lets you know when its once again time to inform us all of the problems you let your daily internet sites dictate for you... sorry, it gets old

but as always... you will continue your personal crusade to inform all of us sheep of the 'truth'

[alvin]

Originally Posted by david austin

thing is i do read what you post most of the time.

IMO you are a classic example of someone so set in their ways that they refuse to see any side they dont believe in. people like you enjoy finding every tiny minute detail and developing your own opinion. its all good alvin... thats what makes you, you... and me, me. my disdain isnt the fact that you have an opinion... its the fact that your opinion is so concrete and set in stone that its pointless even trying to bring facts in from the other side of the arguement.

i am willing to give points where i think they are due. you however are not. there have been MANY occasions where your sources have been shot down and your theories have been thoroughly debunked yet you consistently refuse to give an inch. your retorts are filled with grammatical twists and specifically chosen dictionary examples used to fit your viewpoint. you try to disprove anything and everything by giving examples literally 180 degrees to the opposite. there is a middle ground to just about everything you post here... you just refuse to hear the medium. many of the links and sources posted by A&P regulars are glazed over and not even responded to... all while you formulate your next rant against america. its a weekly thing with you. its like you have this internal clock that lets you know when its once again time to inform us all of the problems you let your daily internet sites dictate for you... sorry, it gets old

but as always... you will continue your personal crusade to inform all of us sheep of the 'truth'

So you are joining the Fraternity of "OPINION RULES".

There's no winning with you cat's...

First you say I'm guilty of posting "false information"

Then you accuse the websites I site of being "less than credible"

Then you call me every name in the book in an attempt to divert attention from the message...

And now yet again when I post something that you don't agree with you say that my... "opinion is so concrete and set in stone that its pointless even trying to bring facts in from the other side of the arguement".

Directly related to this post, tell me where does my OPINION come into play?

This post is titled "US + Eugenics = Nazi's"

That isn't my "opinion" that is a FACT and I backed up my assertion with evidence. If you have any "facts from the other side"...feel free to share them...this is a public forum btw.

The FACTS state that Hitler(and the Nazi's) were supported and funded by groups within this country and the Nazi program of "extermination" was modeled after eugenics laws passed by the US GOVERNMENT. Don't you think this information is quite useful especially since the "popular belief" is that Hitler was a "architect of mass murder", "a madman" and "enemy" of the US(hint, hint...Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussien).

while you formulate your next rant against america

When did airing the TRUTH of a nation become a "rant against america"??? I've said it before and I'll say it again...before those in this country pass judgement over another, those people need to take a long hard look in the mirror before claiming to be "moral". This is just ONE EXAMPLE of the hypocrisy of a nation that claims to be one thing and does another.

[david austin]

Originally Posted by alvin

So you are joining the Fraternity of "OPINION RULES".

everything about politics is technically an opinion.

First you say I'm guilty of posting "false information"

not false... just the only info that sides with what you believe

Then you accuse the websites I site of being "less than credible"

are you really trying to argue here that you dont ever post up sites that are well known to be extremely one sided??

Then you call me every name in the book in an attempt to divert attention from the message...

calling you names?? i have ever once said anything derogatory to you??

airing the TRUTH of a nation

i just about fell out of my chair... man... you are always good for some laughs.

[alvin]

Originally Posted by david austin

everything about politics is technically an opinion.



not false... just the only info that sides with what you believe



are you really trying to argue here that you dont ever post up sites that are well known to be extremely one sided??



calling you names?? i have ever once said anything derogatory to you??



i just about fell out of my chair... man... you are always good for some laughs.

not referring to you personally ... just using an example. Sorry.

You've had the opportunity to post evidence to counter what I've posted. But instead you are pulling a xian and dwelling on your personal opinion. Isn't the whole point of making a claim is to offer evidence that substantiates the claim?

What info do you have that says that this country DID NOT have eugenics laws that Hitler copied?

What info do you have that says that funding for Hitler's programs DID NOT come from within the USA?

What info do you have that says that the USA DID NOT practice "forced sterilizations on American citizens?

Maybe if you did a better job at staying in your chair you could find this information.