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[60secondape]

My article 911 Without the Aluminium is getting a shitload of hits. I'm honored they liked the article. Just scroll down, it's on the front page.

[zerojunkie]

Websites like www.breakfornews.com and literally hundreds of other independent articles throughout the net, all present very convincing arguments that there has in fact been an initiative set forth on some level to divide and qwel the credibility of this new movement.

It's quell...and maybe they're losing credibility because they're full of shit.

There is of course the debate about WTC building 7 not receiving any significant damage, yet still being “pulled” as described by Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex in a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds'.

nothing significant besides the what 10 story whole in it.

The huge put options that were placed on airline stock right before 911 is also a common talking point.

Normal activity.

Then there is the fact that of all 84 videos in circulation even the FBI itself claims none of the footage shows proof of flight 77 hitting the pentagon…

Airplane wreckage, ground debris, and multiple eye witnesses that say flight 77 hit the pentagon.

or perhaps you’ve heard the traces of thermate found on WTC tower debris taken from the demolition site.

No it wasn't.


Nice site though, I like the design.

[60secondape]

Originally Posted by zerojunkie

It's quell...and maybe they're losing credibility because they're full of shit.



nothing significant besides the what 10 story whole in it.



Normal activity.



Airplane wreckage, ground debris, and multiple eye witnesses that say flight 77 hit the pentagon.



No it wasn't.


Nice site though, I like the design.

As you know there are people that would argue with you on some of those points... but to be honest, I'm no expert. MY point was... what the hell is real news and disinfo these days?

I reference Fintan because he's the guy most commonly known for that crap. I don't think it's as extensive as he makes it out to be by a long shot but there is definitely a move to associate truth movement topics with tabloids (the new Mark Dice clip in the Enquirer for example).

Thanks for the design compliment and correction... I manage, design and develop all the site content and as I said in a previous post it kind of runs together after a while... lol. I'm not superman.

[gatecrasher]

10 story whole? Well I'd like to see a pic or video of this. I haven't seen a 10 story whole, or hole in WTC7 prior to its collapse.

[zerojunkie]

Originally Posted by 60secondape

MY point was... what the hell is real news and disinfo these days?

No doubt the information is heavily diluted just so it will appeal to your common American. But when you get into the real technical aspects of 9/11 I have a hard time believing any of the conspiracy theories out there.

Originally Posted by gatecrasher

10 story whole? Well I'd like to see a pic or video of this. I haven't seen a 10 story whole, or hole in WTC7 prior to its collapse.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center

The NIST interim report on 7 WTC details a 10-story gash that existed on the south façade, extending a third of the way across the face of the building and approximately a quarter of the way into the interior, but does not provide any photographs of the damage to the south façade.

or read the report yourself...

http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_.../appendixl.pdf

It's a hell of a lot more comprehensive than some crackpot lunacy site raving on and on about a couple words the building's owner said on some documentary, and it's just an interim report. Where's my pictures of it being 'pulled'? Where are the pictures of steely eyed men in black planting explosives? Where are my pictures of thermite cutting integral support columns? I honestly don't understand how a few minor inconsistencies in the official story make some people discount the entire thing and opt instead for outlandish theories that fit only with the minor inconsistencies of the original story.

[PETA]

[Sinner]

I thought Al Gore blew up the WTC????

[zcwilly]

Originally Posted by MicahB

I thought Al Gore blew up the WTC????

He used explosives that don't emit greenhouse gasses

[60secondape]

In my opinion the true intention of the Truth Movement is to get at the deception that lead us to a war with Iraq. I'm all about that. All those other points can be debated back and forth for days. I look for credible science behind the debate and key facts, but don't take my political opinion peice (the key word is opinion) as news. Most people on both sides of the debate agree with my overall point, but as I said... I'm no expert.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by 60secondape

Most people on both sides of the debate agree with my overall point

which is?

[60secondape]

Originally Posted by xian

which is?

That there is definitely disinfo going on, whether you believe that is being done within mainstream media or in the truth movement (probably both) and to what degree is subjective. Either way, the families of 911 that were neglected and the deception behind why we went to Iraq should the focus, not bickering.

[Hey Bubu]

Originally Posted by 60secondape

In my opinion the true intention of the Truth Movement is to get at the deception that lead us to a war with Iraq.

Correct me if I am wrong, I think that all one has to do is review the history of the region and one can more or less map what has happened up to this point and what the intentions of the west are in the area.

To me, the disinformation has been SOOOOOO shitty and poorly managed that I find it funny that more people aren't up in arms about the BS they've been fed, but then again, the masses are asses.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by 60secondape

That there is definitely disinfo going on, whether you believe that is being done within mainstream media or in the truth movement (probably both) and to what degree is subjective. Either way, the families of 911 that were neglected and the deception behind why we went to Iraq should the focus, not bickering.

So... you're saying there is a conspiracy afoot but not what that conspiracy is and that to doubt such a conspirarcy is to do injustice to 9/11 familes?


Occam's Razor - learn it and love it.

"entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"

"entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occams_razor

What's going around is a ton of paranoid gullibility often fueled by people's contempt for things related to GW arising largely out of a disagreement with our war in Iraq.

[60secondape]

Originally Posted by Porkchop Avenger

Correct me if I am wrong, I think that all one has to do is review the history of the region and one can more or less map what has happened up to this point and what the intentions of the west are in the area.

To me, the disinformation has been SOOOOOO shitty and poorly managed that I find it funny that more people aren't up in arms about the BS they've been fed, but then again, the masses are asses.

Well of course... but as I have learned the Achilles heal of truth oriented news is that it scares people away because of the over the top disinfo I referenced. If we had events (like Thought Criminals coming up April 21st for example) where it wasn't based on the paronoid side of it, there might be a forum for organizing votes and sharing ideas. That's a start at least here locally.

A lot of people I have talked to that think the Truth Movvement is all bullshit, do believe the war with Iraq was shady. They have divided us and we don't even realize it. We need to organize the young vote and get more active point blank or they are going to hand us shittier and shittier wages and higher and higher interest rates, it's that simple. Fuck what people think... do something constructive to help change it, however large or small or shut up is how I feel about the issue.

[60secondape]

Originally Posted by xian

So... you're saying there is a conspiracy afoot but not what that conspiracy is and that to doubt such a conspirarcy is to do injustice to 9/11 familes?


Occam's Razor - learn it and love it.

"entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem"

"entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occams_razor

What's going around is a ton of paranoid gullibility often fueled by people's contempt for things related to GW arising largely out of a disagreement with our war in Iraq.

Now your just being difficult and twisting words... cool references though. We both have our views and I will agree to disagree.