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Old 07-23-07, 07:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How can you not be FOR gay marriage?

i'm watching this democratic debate and they are all saying they are against gay marriage but for civil unions.

is it just me or is that complete horseshit? what is the big fucking deal? you'll give them everything that a marriage consists of except for the label "marriage."

i seriously don't understand why every single candidate doesn't say that they have no issue with homos getting married. i don't get what the big deal is.
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i dont really get it either

hell if anything its population control.
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yeah, they keep saying they'll give them full civil unions with every right and benefit of marriage... but not actual marriage.

who is benefiting from that shit? the homophobic people who hate gay people don't win because they get the rights and benefits... and the homos don't win because they don't get the marriage.

it's bullshit imo. let them get married.

ps. that movie I Now Pronounce you Chuck and Larry was lame.
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I'm so fucking sick of this playing middle field shit from the dems. I love gay people, free healthcare, and house music. Thats why I don't fucking vote for republicans, christ. Give me a Howard Dean to work with...something!
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well id hate to shake all of these pillars of christian values that we have left in this country
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I'm so fucking sick of this playing middle field shit from the dems.
it's both sides. it's fucking politicians. always playing it safe. FUCK THAT SHIT. i cannot trust a single person who plays it safe and doesn't come out and speak their mind.
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well id hate to shake all of these pillars of christian values that we have left in this country
So - just to play devil's advocate - or some such variation - is being Christian the point on which this turns? Must one oppose same sex marriage if one is Christian and must one support them if one is not?

Or is the Christian angle overplayed because its an easy whipping boy?
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I'm so fucking sick of this playing middle field shit from the dems. I love gay people, free healthcare, and house music.
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So - just to play devil's advocate - or some such variation - is being Christian the point on which this turns? Must one oppose same sex marriage if one is Christian and must one support them if one is not?

Or is the Christian angle overplayed because its an easy whipping boy?
well when they bring up God and the bible when talking about opposing gay marriage then you have to talk about it.
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So - just to play devil's advocate - or some such variation - is being Christian the point on which this turns? Must one oppose same sex marriage if one is Christian and must one support them if one is not?

Or is the Christian angle overplayed because its an easy whipping boy?
i think both to an extent.

youre always going to have your hard-liners that go word for word from the bible... and then you have people that kinda roll with the times as long as you carry the worldly fundamentals like the not kill, adultery, etc...

i always viewed gay marriage kinda like the catholic church unwilling to let women hold official rank. its not like theres anything fundamentally wrong with it being a 'woman'... they are just so die hard set in their ways that theres no going against the way its always been done even in the face of just about everyone else allowing and accepting it.

personally i think its stupid. we are all people and just because you like the same sex doesnt in my mind change anything about who you are, what you believe, and how you will be received by your chosen higher power.
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It's a non-issue. Legislate it and move on.
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i agree Miles, that's why they should just allow it and stop debating it.

i think Iraq is nearing to be a non-issue... they need to bring the troops home.

Darfur is next imo.

personally the least important issue imo is the national healthcare issue... i don't see that as being a big deal. probably because i haven't experienced a bunch of problems with it.
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personally the least important issue imo is the national healthcare issue... i don't see that as being a big deal. probably because i haven't experienced a bunch of problems with it.
really???

this is perhaps the biggest domestic issue we face now.
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i agree Miles, that's why they should just allow it and stop debating it.

i think Iraq is nearing to be a non-issue... they need to bring the troops home.

Darfur is next imo.

personally the least important issue imo is the national healthcare issue... i don't see that as being a big deal. probably because i haven't experienced a bunch of problems with it.

In case you've missed my posts for the past 6 years I've been on here, my sister's gay, so I am for legalizing it. Unless I'm just taking your sarcasm the wrong way.
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