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Old 01-04-08, 04:52 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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I hope so, but I was also sure that no one in this country would be stupid enough to vote for Bush the second time around.
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I would rather have McCain than Huckabee, McCain is really the only Republican.
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I think a contributing factor to that (though certainly not the ONLY factor) is that America is very ready for a change..
We've had nothing but Bushes and Clintons in the White House since 1989....
1981, sorta. There's only 8 years out of the last 28 when a Bush wasn't more than a heartbeat from the presidency.

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The far right isn't going to be allowed into the office this term. The country has had enough of it.
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Yeah i thought more people would vote you Hillary.
There was a concerted effort by the 'fringe' candidates to submarine Hillary. Kucinich and a couple others told their constituents that if they weren't going to get the necessary 15% for their candidate(it's a weird Iowa Dem caucus rule, I don't know all the details of it) to vote for Obama. So that has to be taken into account when you see the results. There's a lot of the Dem candidates who are ganging up on Hillary.

The funny thing is that Kucinich may have screwed himself in the process because ABC is excluding him from the next debate because he didn't get enough votes in Iowa.
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So the lesson here is that Jonny dressed in a cow suit is inherently more dangerous than an actual terrorist
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1981, sorta. There's only 8 years out of the last 28 when a Bush wasn't more than a heartbeat from the presidency.
Very good point.. I had almost forgotten that Bush Sr was Reagan's VP.

Suddenly the theme song to Welcome back Kotter is ringing in my head (Kotter ... Carter... whatever)
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Yeah, I've been told by those more experienced in this than I that the remaining caucuses will most likely not look anything like this one... Huckabee won't be winning the next two and even though Guiliani lost this one by a huge margin, he has a good chance of winning some of the remaining ones.
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I just know I don't want Romney, Huckabee, Richardson, or Guiliani as President.
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Why do you think Richardson would make a good VP? I'm curious.

I've heard him speak twice over the tele and the guy just doesn't sit well with me... I should've written down what he said that was asinine but I didn't.
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Just quote any text from the debates and you'll probably have something.
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Why do you think Richardson would make a good VP? I'm curious.

I've heard him speak twice over the tele and the guy just doesn't sit well with me... I should've written down what he said that was asinine but I didn't.
I think he'd make a good VP because he's conservative enough to win over a lot of moderates and Regan Democrats. Besides, he's got cred with regards to intl. diplomacy so he'd be useful with regards to repairing our image around the world. It's not like he'd be setting any policy decisions, as the office isn't worth "a bucket of warm piss," as the saying goes.
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Richardson and Intl Diplomacy? doesn't he support the war and support more war in the future?
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agreed 100%, though Cheney has made the office of the VP much more powerful, especially in the foreign policy realm.


He is the PERFECT running mate for Hillary.
I think Cheney's an exception, and after him the office will return to normal. His tenure as VP has been unusual in every respect, from drunken shootings to an unprecedented level of secrecy. He only increased the power of the office temporarily, IMO, but once the Leg and Judiciary get a chance they'll put a damper on things.
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Richardson and Intl Diplomacy? doesn't he support the war and support more war in the future?
He worked wonders with the N. Koreans.
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not really. he says were are they and are stuck with it atm, which we are, and that war as an option unfortunately must always be an option, the last option, but an option.
if you have time, post me up some info that backs that up because i could've sworn that he wasn't expressing that opinion when i heard him speak. i put him on my shitlist because of his war opinions.
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hmmm... it is quite possible I wrote down the wrong candidate name because what I read in those two things you posted is not anything like I remember hearing. I need to find a picture of the candidates to make sure I saw the right guy.

I, too, like what he said in that first excerpt... it's too bad that they invaded Iraq anyway instead of listening to what he said.
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i wouldnt mind if someone stabbed Huck with that damned bass he's always playing on tv, whats that about?
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well Clintons sax SCREAMED drunk frat party boy.......Hucks bass is just sad, even his posture and everything is just sad. Nobody ever breaks out a bass at a party!!!
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