Dennis Kucinich just filed the paperwork, and financed a full recount for NH

[e-brake]

CONCORD, New Hampshire (AP) — Democrat Dennis Kucinich, who won less than 2 percent of the vote in the New Hampshire primary, said Thursday he wants a recount to ensure that all ballots in his party's contest were counted.
The Ohio congressman cited "serious and credible reports, allegations and rumors" about the integrity of Tuesday results.
Deputy Secretary of State David Scanlan said Kucinich is entitled to a statewide recount. But, under New Hampshire law, Kucinich will have to pay for it. Scanlan said he had "every confidence" the results are accurate.
In a letter dated Thursday, Kucinich said he does not expect significant changes in his vote total, but wants assurance that "100 percent of the voters had 100 percent of their votes counted."
Kucinich alluded to online reports alleging disparities around the state between hand-counted ballots, which tended to favor Sen. Barack Obama, and machine-counted ones that tended to favor Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. He also noted the difference between pre-election polls, which indicated Obama would win, and Clinton's triumph by a 39 percent to 37 percent margin.
Candidates who lose by 3 percentage or less are entitled to a recount for a $2,000 fee. Candidates who lose by more must pay for the full cost. Kucinich's campaign said it was sending the $2,000 fee to start the recount.

Scanlon said his office had received several phone calls since Tuesday, mostly from outside the state, questioning the results. New Hampshire's voting machines are not linked in any way, which
Scanlon says reduce the likelihood of tampering with results on a statewide level. Also, the results can be checked against paper ballots.
"I think people from out of state don't completely understand how our process works and they compare it to the system that might exist in Florida or Ohio, where they have had serious problems," he said. "Perhaps the best thing that could happen for us is to have a recount to show the people that … the votes that were cast on election day were accurately reflected in the results. And I have every confidence that will be the case."

[PETA]

I love Kucinich, never a dull moment.

That's awesome. It's about time someone took some action to prove or disprove these rumors before people got discouraged enough to stop voting. Kucinich just went up a few notches with me for having the balls to do it. The question is, who's in charge of the recount and how will we know if it's any more accurate?

[umalak_]

Kucinich is a good man and has good ideas, it's people like xian though who will never vote for him because he doesn't serve their warmongering interests.

[Funkenstein]

WTF? (in regards to the person and the funding, not Joel's comment)

Oh this is going to get good. . .

[umalak_]

what are you WTF'ing about?

He wants a recount and the rules say he has to pay for it if he wants it and so he paid. Kucinich is willing to do what it takes to back up what he says. He says the war is wrong and he says that there is voting fraud occuring.

[Funkenstein]

Originally Posted by umalak_

what are you WTF'ing about?

He wants a recount and the rules say he has to pay for it if he wants it and so he paid.

There you go. The fact that he did it is like WOW to me. That's cool that he has the cash to do it. I don't think there is anything wrong with it, just really taken aback.

[umalak_]

Well he stands behind what he says. Did you hear the story about how Kucinich might not be allowed on the ballot in Texas because you have to sign a loyalty pledge in order to be on the Democratic ballot... and that loyalty pledge says that you will support 100% any democratic candidate for office and Kucinich signed it but scratched off that part because he said he could not support any candidate that supports this war?

well, some people think that's crazy... but that's Kucinich backing up his words with action. He believes this war is wrong and he believes that there is voting fraud going on and he is willing to back it up.

[Funkenstein]

Originally Posted by umalak_

Did you hear the story about how Kucinich might not be allowed on the ballot in Texas because you have to sign a loyalty pledge in order to be on the Democratic ballot... and that loyalty pledge says that you will support 100% any democratic candidate for office and Kucinich signed it but scratched off that part because he said he could not support any candidate that supports this war?

Linky, please. I've only voted straight ticket once and never again.

[umalak_]

If you do a google search for "Kucinich sign pledge" then you'll get a ton of links, but here is one:

http://www.statesman.com/news/conten...4kucinich.html

TX, I think, is the only state that has a loyalty pledge like this...

edit: you can watch this as well if you'd like... i know the kinds of comments his speech here might receive from certain people on here but i think the guy is good for this country:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrj3Ss-Es0Q

[Funkenstein]

The moment Willie Nelson joined in, he deepsixed his own cause.



I'll watch the clip here in a sec. Thanks, Joel.

[umalak_]

Originally Posted by Edwin Watson

kucinich has one big downfall for me... his strength thru peace philospohy. while very admirable in the abstract, i am way too much of a realist/pragmatist.

i am cool with his alt energy and healthcare plans in general tho.

saying you're a realist and thus peace cannot exist is crazy Edwin... as long as people feel that way there will never be peace. reality is what we make it. reality is not some set in stone thing out there out of our control.

and we're not even talking about 100% peace, like no violence ever... we are human and humans are capable of violence and thus violence will always be there in some form or another... but right now we are so far away from any kind of peace and it's leaders like Kucinich that are trying to get us closer.

[PETA]

Originally Posted by umalak_

saying you're a realist and thus peace cannot exist is crazy Edwin...

That's not what he said...

Peace through dialogue is not highly prized by some people on the planet, failing to recognize this a pretty big problem.

The fact remains that some would use war as a method of territorial expnasion or as a method of expanding influence both economically and politically (I include religion in that).

The fact is that those who would use war in that manner will pick low hanging fruit rather than drive their faces into the buzz saw that is the US military. And so, North Korea won't invade the South as long as our troops remain. If they leave, I wouldn't be confident in the peninsula remaining war free for long. Peace through superior firepower works. Yes, yes, you define peace differently than everybody else. Bully for you.

[Dionysos]

We can't even get everyone on the planet to hate Bin Laden, and that guy helped kill tens of thousands. You really think we're going to get the world to believe peace is the answer?

[umalak_]

We don't need the entire world to believe that peace is the answer... besides, what's the question if peace is the answer?

anyway, all we need is for the world leaders... certainly the leader of the only superpower in the world currently to believe that peace is more important than starting widespread misinformed and ill-advised wars across the globe.

Why is it that no one has an issue with us starting wars? but at the mere mention of peace you all go on the offense attacking it?

Our president invaded Iraq and tore that Govt to shreads because he claimed they had WOMD's when the evidence was not irrefutable... and yeah, he's catched flack for it but he is still in office starting more wars... but the idea of peace? Well gosh, that's just not feasible... we need to start wars and invade countries backed by misinformed and incomplete evidence and certainly we won't need any real plans on what to do after we destroy everything. That's just silly.

War is inevitable, it's what humans do... we are a violent and horrid species... peace is impossible so we shouldn't even bother trying. Let's just give up and keep on this road... it's certainly doing wonders for us all.

/sarcasm